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I have walked LS-1 's with that car on the highway...challenged yall's hero to a autobahn race that day too....hehehe...he kinda blew me off....maybe he was scurred! remember that bruce? ;) Ok...me, you, the autobahn this weekend at bitburg. Like I said, I need to know where I stand.[/quote]

Do you wanna race me this weekend on the autobahn? How bout 500 EU on it. I will dwarf you in my rear veiw mirrior in less than 1 ea minute. I will have no mercy and if you wanna put say 100 on a drag race we could easily do that. As far as last year I was willing to race then too sorry not scared but I was running low 13 high 12 then.


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John I know it is possible. Hell, I'm not that ignorant. I hope he is right, because it is nice to have some competition. However, I just don't agree with someone coming on to a fbody-specific website, talking about 'some' car they have in the 'States and how it could smoke any car on the board. That is so ridiculous. Mod the 200, and then show us something. I am not afraid to admit that I can easily be beaten, but it will not be as easy as he wants to think..
hahaha...the 200 is being modded! ahhhh...i ran a 15.2 last race stock....exhaust, big intercooler, and some more boost = 14.2 this time....can you knock a full second off your et with similar mods? didn't think so! still waiting on the highway runs...stock and lightly modified LT-1's need not apply! if you seen me run the black LS-1 T/A you know why ;)

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Yeah, well we all read the 14.2 @ 97 (zzzzzz)for this apocalyptically fast "it was no fun" Eclipse but we didn't see any figures after that, right? Just the usual "claims". Man, some big block Chevelles run 16's. Besides, if, despite all those mods, "it was no fun", what's the point? I don't think anyone has ruled out the possibility of being beaten (I've seen too many 12 second Cosworths to not consider it) but most of those guys don't shout about it, they get out there and let the numbers talk (and their pockets for the most part...I see 400hp Sierras where the owners quite freely talk about pumping 20k into the car and with some of the Skyline GTR's, we're talking a different cash pool altogether). The fact is, we all know the possibility exists but we ain't seen nothing so far to suggest that might be a probability.
I don't know why you keep quoting those ridiculous prices...I put about $1700.00 into my 300zxtt and went from 300hp to 400hp (flywheel)...ummmm, you can't do that to an LS-1 or LT-1 for that amount of cash...sorry! three upgrades was all that was done, ecu, exhaust, and intake, believe it or don't doesn't matter to me...your ignorance is my fuel...keep yappin! hahaha

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Besides, if you need 18 freaking pounds of boost to beat me, well then more power to you, I won't be disappointed if I lost.
hahaha...prepare to be disappointed then!!! I'll be able to run 20! hahaha...told you to do your homework! you can't run 18psi...your compression is too high...that means you gotta spend more $$$ for stouter rods and 8.5 to 9.0:1 pistons. Like I told you, the 'z' is in the shop as we speak.

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I didn't even see that.. 18 psi is crazy. How many guys do you know running that much?
"run-4-cover raises hand with an evil smile"....hahaha...eclispe was running 18....the 300zx will be running 17+...my 200sx is running 15psi...any more ?'s ;)

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Hey I will volunteer my car for the autobahn run . R4C I don't know I think . My car is the average run of the mill LS1 with. My major mods mods are suspension and brakes. I still have the stock heads and a factory made camshaft. So how a bout a triple threat race.
1. Grudge race 1/4
2. autocross
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It should be interesting. WHat do you say.
autobahn runis all i'm really interested in...1/4 drags are not my forte...lol....pointless to auto x an automatic car....deal! on the autobahn run....were you at bitburg?

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I have walked LS-1 's with that car on the highway...challenged yall's hero to a autobahn race that day too....hehehe...he kinda blew me off....maybe he was scurred! remember that bruce? ;) Ok...me, you, the autobahn this weekend at bitburg. Like I said, I need to know where I stand.
as soon as the big turbo goes on, me and you on the autobahn...might even take you up on the money bet too ;)

Do you wanna race me this weekend on the autobahn? How bout 500 EU on it. I will dwarf you in my rear veiw mirrior in less than 1 ea minute. I will have no mercy and if you wanna put say 100 on a drag race we could easily do that. As far as last year I was willing to race then too sorry not scared but I was running low 13 high 12 then.[/quote]

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Man you guys are cracking me up! Never seen so much chit talking ever on this board. I ain't saying nothing other than you might want to rethink or rephrase some words. You might just get dealt w/. Don't know why some of us think we can't be touched by a smaller displacement engine spooled. Some of you ain't doing the homework. IF RC4 knows what he's doing you may have problems. Ever see the clip w/a Vette 427 by Doug Rippie up against a DSM? The DSM pulled him from the jump and the 427 hawked him down of course but it took 2 gears to do it. And that DSM only had 18psi coming out of it w/ a good 6 more left in from what's been reported.

Then there is the 200sx vid roaming around anihalating a cammed LS1 w/ LT's. SO don't be too cocky and always know the competition. Hell I've been beat myself playing w/ a Carerra 4 come to find out he's sprayin a 125 shot. Didn't loose by much but the point is I lost. Those 4 bangers don't require alot and they one up you coming w/ a forged bottom end. So if he has the skills and tune it.......trouble is a possibility.


Not sticking up for RC4 just stirring up some contro :) And something to think about......
hehehe...finally! someone who done a lil research...props to you! yep, i got the skills to make it go ;)...still waiting on tony's wife to e-mail me my full timeslip, i wanna see what my mph is this time....last race i ran 15.2 @ 91mph...this time, 14.2 @ ??? ...same 60foot times, just a few well placed mods ;)

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138MPH in a quarter wonder what I could do in a 1/2 mile I bet it is pretty close to 170+MPH let me know R4C when you want me to school you on slightly tweaked American Horsepower.


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138MPH in a quarter wonder what I could do in a 1/2 mile I bet it is pretty close to 170+MPH let me know R4C when you want me to school you on slightly tweaked American Horsepower.
oh, i will;)...i will call you out personally...slightly tweaked american power...hahaha...what do you call heavily modified?...machining a 1,000 cu.in. block from a block of titanium? ;)

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Are you insane? With a set of ET streets, and a cam, I could EASILY drop a second off my time! I haven't run the Z with this new cam yet, or even the headers for that matter, but I guarantee you I'll be well into the 12s.
my point was not lowering my et. by getting better 60ft. times...a knocked that second off with nothing but horsepower. i launched the same as i did last time and let the car change gears as it seen fit...i'm waiting to see my mph, that will tell the true story...all i know is when i looked at my speedo going throught the traps, it was showing 170kmh...i wanna see what the chrondek says...i'm looking for something in the neighborhood of 100mph...how would you explain picking up 9mph in the 1/4?

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So just to recap, ladies and gentlemen,R4C has a car that has ACTUALLY run the quarter in 15.2 (Crowd steps back in awe, their jaws drop, surely not a 15.2. The crowd begins to buzz, can it be true, yes, yes, it really is a 15.2, what should we do, should we tell someone about this amazing new discovery, will that Lingenfelter Corvette ever feel safe to pad the streets with it's driver shaking his head in disbelief, a 15.2, a 15.2, what if this news get out, it would turn the drag racing world on it's head, history would have to be rewritten.) Oh well, come and talk when you run another time and we can talk about the next one you're going to run after that. You should be in the 5's by the end of the year.


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[/quote]hahaha...the 200 is being modded! ahhhh...i ran a 15.2 last race stock....exhaust, big intercooler, and some more boost = 14.2 this time....can you knock a full second off your et with similar mods? didn't think so! still waiting on the highway runs...stock and lightly modified LT-1's need not apply! if you seen me run the black LS-1 T/A you know why ;)[/quote]

Jack, is he saying he ran a 14.2 or is he claiming he will run a 14.2. Either way, same thread but insert "14.2" instead of 15.2 but I'm sure he'll scan in his time slip so we don't have to take his word for it, right?


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So R4C, do you do all of your own work? Have you touched the head at all? How much more boost could you run? When do you plan to stop, when you've beat everyone on this board? Are you trying to prove something here?
yep, i do ALL my own wrench turning (except for this time on my 300zx, i won't have enough time to pull the engine while I'm in the states)...don't need any headwork yet, these stock heads will flow alot of air...if i need to pull the head for some reason, i'll do a little work to the port bowls and clean-up any areas that might be shrouding the valves, match port everything and put it back together...I have hp goals set for each car, i'll stop when i reach them and enjoy the car, the 300zxtt's is set at 800hp (flywheel) and the 200sx's is 400hp (flywheel). Nope, I'm not out to beat everyone on this board, just trying to keep some of yall from being so narrow minded ;)...nothing to prove either, just having fun doing what i do.


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Where is your other post? You said that we could not knock off a second with $1700... That is a pretty ignorant thing to say. Everyone here knows that there is a HUGE aftermarket for imports, and it's all relatively inexpensive, but you cannot take away the fact that these cars do not require much to go fast. How much work would it take you to run mid 12s? I want to know, because with having spent only $1500 on a few mods, I am confident that I could do it now.
what's ignorant about that? a heads and cam package is more than $1700.00. I mean you can buy a N2O kit and do it, but i wasn't counting nitrious as a bolt on. The aftermarket for imports is WAYY more expensive than domestics, trust me! Don't get caught up in all the honda bs! they sell all kinds of garbage for hondas because they know the average owner is someone younger who will probably fall for the low price, big horsepower crap...I only spend my $$$ on parts that have been proven on my particular car (sometimes i go out on a limb though, and go against the norm). depends on which car you are talking about to go mid 12's....the 'z' will run high 12's now, a set of drag radials and a boost controller would put it in the mid 12's....the 200sx? i don't know how much to put mine in the mid 12's...i can only garner 2.6 sixty foot times with the stock converter....guyz with ~340rwhp that have 5-speed cars have run low 12's high 11's....just for reference, a stock 5-speed is almost a full second faster 0-60mph than an auto 200sx.


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It's not a question of being narrow-minded. We love our F-bodies. If you offered any person on this board an 11 second 200Sx, I doubt anyone would be remotely interested. That's not narrow-minded, it's a question of taste. To me, the 200SX is plug ugly and that's an end to it. Same goes for the 300ZX.
I'm somewhat perplexed by the figures you quote. You see, my friend with the Skyline is constantly shoving Nissan tests under my nose and I recall a recent "Whose is the most powerful" test of modified Skylines and one in particular interested me (2wd?)as he had a dynoed 350 bhp and ran 13.8 at around 108 I think - which is similar to what mine was running and so it was an interesting comparison. So why would a 200SX be faster? Have you got a link to any articles where these cars run that fast? Again, it's not that I'm interested, I just like to verify facts vs fiction.


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Well said. I never did like to talk $hit. Now I know why. I will just let actions speak for themselves from now on!

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It's not a question of being narrow-minded. We love our F-bodies. If you offered any person on this board an 11 second 200Sx, I doubt anyone would be remotely interested. That's not narrow-minded, it's a question of taste. To me, the 200SX is plug ugly and that's an end to it. Same goes for the 300ZX.
I'm somewhat perplexed by the figures you quote. You see, my friend with the Skyline is constantly shoving Nissan tests under my nose and I recall a recent "Whose is the most powerful" test of modified Skylines and one in particular interested me (2wd?)as he had a dynoed 350 bhp and ran 13.8 at around 108 I think - which is similar to what mine was running and so it was an interesting comparison. So why would a 200SX be faster? Have you got a link to any articles where these cars run that fast? Again, it's not that I'm interested, I just like to verify facts vs fiction.
I thought i told you once to slap your "friend" ;)....2wd skylines are gt-s's!!!! gt-r's are the big dogs with 4wd...some gt-s's are available in 4wd config too....go to http://www.freshalloy.com and go to the forums, then go down to the 240sx advanced sections and enjoy....anything relating to sr20det motors is the one in my car. a 200sx would be faster because he obviously doesn't have a big turbo and my 200sx is alot lighter than his gt-s....ummm..i ran 14.2 this weekend at bitburg, we didn't get timeslips because the printer was broken, but i asked the lady that kept the times to e-mail all my runs to me, cuz i wanna see my mph...that 14.2 was run with ~2.6 sixty foot time...what was your sixty time on your 13.6 run? to put things in perspective, a relatively stock LS-1 running me on the highway will have his/her hands full. period. I even raced a 6-spd T/A this weekend, he got about a carlength out of the hole and that's how the race ended, he couldn't pull anything through the gears.....oh how i wish you were here, so i could personally take you out on the bahn an hurt your feelings! ;)....tell your friend to buy a 300zx or silvia and quit wasting his money on that GT-S...hahahaha...enjoy!

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You're missing the point. The Skyline, whatever it was, had 350bhp. My 13.8 (not 13.6 yet but thanks for the vote) was a 2.32 60'. You keep saying that your time was with a 2.6 60' but you might never run better than a 2.6 60'. I also think you'll find you have enough volunteers over there to try to "inflict some hurt" on although since that stock TA blew you away (and who's to say he was even trying, I always do "just enough" to keep them in my door mirror as there's not much point if you can't see the disappointment on their face). I think you'll need more than a 14.2 - at which point during my 13.8 would you have passed me? LOL.


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