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my point is; that 14.2 isn't representative of the power out-put of my car...it's not like i'm spinning to get 2.6 sixty foot times, the car is simply rolling out until the turbo spools...how many times do i have to say i'm not building a drag car! You have never heard me challenge anyone to a drag race, always a highway run. hmmm..your et is 0.4 seconds quicker than mine, but your 60ft. time is 0.3 seconds better....exactly where are you supposed to be out-accelerating me other than off the line....you would get your feelings hurt on the highway! just ask the C5 that tried me after I left the track. even trying? most people are trying pretty hard when they drag race, except maybe you...guess that's why you only ran a 13.8 ....why don't you do the math and see how much hp my 2800lb. car needs to make to match your 3300lb., 345hp car....then do some research on S14's to see what a fmic, turbo-back 3" exhaust, intake and +5psi boost will net? hint; stock boost is 10psi, stock hp is 200....rule of thumb; for every 1psi increase of boost, you gain 10-12hp.

Well R4C, you talk a good game and all the luck in the world turning your theory into practice. All I'm saying is this, if these mods are so cheap and readily available, it must be a big secret because they haven't beaten me at the track and they certainly haven't beaten me on any highway roll. When they do, I'll be the first to concede that my car needs further modification but really, it's hard enough now finding anything that comes even remotely close given that this car is my commuter back and fore work every day. On the day that I do get beaten, however, and I'm sure it will happen, I won't rush out and buy whatever it was that beat me because the Z28 is everything I need. Thing is, I can go out tomorrow and buy two modified Cosworths that run 12's all day. My insurance on the Z is 500 pounds. On a modified turbo car, it would be about 4 times that .. every year. So your "cheap" mods carry a massive insurance penalty that just isn't worth it, even if I liked the car.

By the way, you can sit and do math all damn day and it does no good if you can't run the times in reality as opposed to theory. You're still 14.2 and a car length behind the TA so far.....

I'm not talking theory, highway runs don't rely heavily on power-to-weight ratio like drag racing does. If you have never been beaten on the highway in a stock LS-1 (or lightly modded; whatever you are) then you obviously haven't ran anything like a modded 300zxtt, supratt, rx-7tt, audi RS-4, BMW M5....blah,blah,blah...some of you try to make these LS-1's sound invincible, bah!!! your 345hp doesn't go very far in the land of modded turbo 4-bangers. Highway racing relies more on gearing, aerodynamic drag and your power curve....in general, turbo cars have alot of top-end power....you keep spouting pounds this, and expensive that....I'm american, my insurance doesn't change if I mod my car, and it's waayy lower than an LS-1. period. you don't like the insurance rates there, move! So keep talking the non-sense you've been spouting, anytime your ready to come to Germany or the states, I'll be more than happy to personally hand you your azz in either place on the highway...any of you LS-1 boys/girlz that are relatively stock care to set up a run on the autobahn so I can shut satan up!?!

i was a car length behind the LS-1 because i can't launch hard, he was a 6m car....he beat me by a carlength because he got it within the first 100feet....is that sooo hard to understand? I wish I knew what his mph was, so i could compare it to mine when i finally get it. Tell you what, get your sixties up to 2.6 and see what you run ....I'll say this one more time; "I AM NOT BUILDING THIS CAR TO DRAG RACE! THAT MEANS NO HIGH STALL CONVERTER, DRAG SUSPENSION MODS, SLICKS OR ELIMINATING MY FRONT SWAY BAR"....understand now!!!!

R4C wrote


I am sure there will be a couple of LS1's at the Nuerburg Ring on Sunday that will oblige you a run R4C. Afterwards We can enjoy some benchracing and coffee to stay warm.

sorry homie, I won't be anywhere near nuerburg-ring this weekend, I live in schweinfurt, that's a 3+ hour drive ...None of you LS-1 boys and girls live near schweinfurt/wurzburg? I do remember someone with an LT-1 in wurzburg talking smack to me too....where is he at? you ready for that run?

I understand perfectly. For now at least, you've got a slow car. I don't care if you've got a 2.6 60', the fact is that's what your car does so live with it. Mine's not "set up" for drag racing either - stock converter, stock suspension at present, "narrow" 245 road tyres and full (soon to be even bigger)front sway bar. I did f*** all to mine and ran faster than yours. Now do YOU understand because everyone else on this board seems to.

Just spent an hour surfing about 50 240Sx sites and none of them, that's NONE of them back up anything you say except for lots and lots of moolah. I'll give you ONE - the highly tuned SR20DET in a flyweight 1971 Datsun 1600 that clocks 13.1 over 400m but everything else is 6 second cars and the forum you referred to is a lot of complaints about unreliability. I'm ignoring the 240SX in this month's performance mag (http://www.nissanperformancemag.com)which has clearly had a small fortune spent to produce 450hp. On a more realistic level, Nissan Performance mag dropped a modified SR20DET into a Bluebird it snapped an axle when they upped the power to 225rwhp. The standard 240Sx runs 14.4 as far as I can see. None of them even claim the sort of stuff you're claiming. Also, zero evidence of this enormously strong bottom end which i would have thought would warrant a mention. So you can talk it up and talk ours down, the LS1 IS the best thing since sliced bread (and before it) and you don't like it. If mine cost twice what yours cost, then I'd still have a "half-price" LT1 over your Nissan any day of the week.

Bluebird was/is pretty big - don't know what the weight is, been a while since my dad had one way back when ... sorry design if it couldn't keep up with the power (how much did that engine make torque wise? snapping the axle or drive train on street tires is a pretty bad testimony for solidity ...)

The Bluebird was the 80's B14. Not that much heavier than a 200SX I shouldn't think. For example, a Toyota Avensis is only 9kg heavier than the 200SX and the new bloated Primera is only 25kg heavier. Here's an interesting fact though, the 200SX weighs 1240kg and the 1971 Datsun 240Z weighed 1038kg. So older doesn't always mean heavier. Add the weight and extra drag of a lot of superfluous spoilers and it looks even less appetising.

R4C run 11's if you can.

drive it to and from the track and run 11's and I will be impressed.

homie..it all comes down to $$$spent, how much did you spend? that's what i thought, not that i can't, but I'm not willing to spend a fortune on any of my cars to run a number...not my cup of tea. More power to you, but if i were to spend the same $$ as you, i have no doubt i could run 11's. Get the point?

guess you missed this, huh? Well i have some new tricks up my sleeve!! I am currently in the middle of helping in the development of Nissdata. simply put it is programamble engine management for Nissans that works just like Hondata. With the system installed the car made 409 Hp / 332 Tq as compared to my previous bests wiht the exact same setup 382 Hp / 305 Tq. This is was doen aat 21.3 psi on 93 octane pump gas on a bone stock block and head, including stock headgasket. Fuel curves are very smooth. You will be hearing more about the system in the coming few weeks....but for now here are the results. My cars specs are as follows:

Red Top SR, GT3040 Turbo (52 trim comp. / 84 Trim Exh.), JGS Turbo Log manifold, Greddy Intake manifold, Tomei 555cc Injectors, Z32 mafs, Tial 40 mm wastegate, custom downpipe, Blitz LM series IC kit.






If it doesn't involve a sr20det or a SL1200MK2 I'm not interested...

the above was copied directly from freshalloy.com...it's not my car. Guess lusifer has selective seeing ...you always talking about shyt you know nothing about, everything is a small fortune spent, look at his mods do-do bird, doesn't look to be much more than a heads and cam package with the usual bolt ons...hmmmm....I don't know why you are searching 240sx sites, didn't i tell you US. spec 240's have a totally different engine! (KA24DE)....didn't i also tell you the car is called a silvia(japan) or 200sx(europe)...the US. never got the SR20det motor in anything. You go digging up bs, then come on here spouting it, like you know what your talking about, you can doubt me all you want, like i said, whenever YOU wanna put your car up against any of MINE, just say the word...I will make you eat every stupid thing you have said trying to dis-credit me....stick with what you got, cuz you definitely don't know jack about turbo-imports, until you get your doors blown off by one and it WILL happen! Matter of fact, I'm sure it has, but your the type who won't admit it...or you'll spout bs like; well he should beat me after spending $1,000,000.00 on mods! and my almighty LS-1 is stock! hahaha...get real, you need a serious reality check! I've read kill stories on ls1.com written by members that have gotten beat by imports...but I'm sure all the import guyz spent millions on their cars just to beat an LS-1!!! I will put my 300zxtt, dollar for dollar mods against anyone on this board! your only saving grace will be nitrious...oh wait! they make even larger turbos! oopsss...never mind! hahaha

I guess you thought i wasn't gonna respond,huh? so, what's bs that i've said, I wanna see it in quotes! exactly what are you trying to call me out on? or you just yappin? fact: i knocked 1 second off my et with the 200sx, fact: I never claimed to be able to beat everyone on this board, I was talking directly to whoever replied to me, fact: who cares if it's an f-body board! this is the kills section, you don't see me posting anywhere else do you?, fact: my 300zxtt is in the shop having the parts put on thatI said is going on...here, call for yourself, ask russell if they have the pearl white 300zx from SC with the chrome rims and ground effects form the guy that owns it livin in Germany (770)562-8668...so all you need to do is keep talkin...I'll persoanlly call you out on this board when I get ready to come to SC., then we'll see who's the bs artist....hope you spent that $2G's wisely.....you gonna beat me in a top-end run riiight?;) hahahaha

thanks tom brokaw ....ahhh..a bluebird is an altima, except they had sr20det engines and awd! ever heard of drive train shock, have you ever launched an awd car? didn't think so...and yes, i have owned one (awd car that is)....you guyz are digging deep, but i keep putting the turbo charged smackdown on yall ....now! about that spanking you were supposed to give me ....

here is the dyno of the above sr20det powered 240sx.http://65.34.70.220/Nissdata.jpg