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Jagsy
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Post subject: Brake Fluid Change - help please Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 10:03 am |
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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2001 2:08 pm Posts: 279 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England, UK
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When changing the brake fluid, do you need a scan tool?????
The guy who is doing the change has read some reference about needing a Tech 1 or T-100 (scan tool) to bleed/purge the brake fluid. It is something to do with Traction Control.
It also mentions TCS not ASR. Is there a difference.
Is this right? Do you need the scanner or can the brakes be bled without it?
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JackZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 10:29 am |
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Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 6:03 pm Posts: 8686 Location: Houston, TX
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With traction control, he is probably right. I don't have it, so I don't worry about it.
ASR is different, that is steering.
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Jagsy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 12:14 pm |
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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2001 2:08 pm Posts: 279 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England, UK
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I always thought ASR is Anti Slip Restraint. Besides, mine is a 1999 like yours Jack. I thought traction control was standard??
Last edited by Jagsy on Mon Sep 23, 2002 12:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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JackZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 12:29 pm |
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Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 6:03 pm Posts: 8686 Location: Houston, TX
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You are right about asr, but I thought that aided in steering. If I am wrong, sorry.. Traction control is/was an option.
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Jagsy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 12:39 pm |
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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2001 2:08 pm Posts: 279 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England, UK
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ASR, I believe measures the speed of front and rear wheels. If they are not the same the ASR (or PCM) cuts the power abd applies the brakes. Clever stuff eh....
I can see the point about the book refering to the need of a scanner - but surely bleding the brakes can be done without it!!!!!!!
Can anyone help....
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Roy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2002 5:30 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 2:52 pm Posts: 5556 Location: Mehlingen,Rhineland Pfalz, Deutschland
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Nope , you do not need a scanner to bleed the brakes on a fbody with traction control(ASR). Just make sure before you do bleed it ,that the ABS was not activated prior to Bleeding. I've probably bled about 4 gals of ATE Super BLUE through my system over the years . Never had a problem.
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Jagsy
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 8:34 am |
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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2001 2:08 pm Posts: 279 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England, UK
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Thanks Roy, much appreciated.
Just for clarity - how do you know the ASR was not activated before bleeding - do you mean switch it off at the switch.
Last edited by Jagsy on Tue Sep 24, 2002 8:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Roy
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 11:33 am |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 2:52 pm Posts: 5556 Location: Mehlingen,Rhineland Pfalz, Deutschland
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For ABS you will get the ABSlight and possibly the low traction light if activated. For ASR you will get the low traction light if it is on and there is a difference in wheel speeds.
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Jagsy
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 12:07 pm |
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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2001 2:08 pm Posts: 279 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England, UK
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Yes I have seen those lights several times (oops), but what do you mean about ASR not activated prior to bleeding?
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Roy
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 3:05 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 2:52 pm Posts: 5556 Location: Mehlingen,Rhineland Pfalz, Deutschland
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It was The ABS Iwas talking about. Make sure the ABS was'nt invoked prior to turning the car off. If it was just restart the car and move it around the block, shut it off and bleed the brakes.
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Jagsy
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2002 5:00 pm |
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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2001 2:08 pm Posts: 279 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England, UK
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Now I understand. Valuable information - thank you again.
I'll buy you a beer when we meet.
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