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 Post subject: European mufflers replacement
PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 7:45 pm 
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Hi

By reading posts on this newsgroup, I have just discovered that not only french camaros are not "full power" cars because of that f*****g quieted down muffler :evil: :evil: :evil:
Result : v6 = 193 HP (200 HP in USA)
v8 = 288 HP (300 HP in USA)

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_ are all european camaros quieted down ?
_ what can I do to get the US 200 HP (or more) with another muffler? (and stay legal?)

When my muffler will be ruined, I first wanted to get a stock GM "US" muffler from another EC country, but maybe they are only installed on US cars.
I don't think Flowmaster or Borla mufflers or cat-back are legal in France, because french government is very strict about cars noise.
I don't really want to buy another european muffler from my Opel dealer.

What do you think, I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering about that problem.

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Germany is as strict about the noise too. And as strict in what you can put on your car and register. Welcome in Europe...

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On 98 and newer camaros , the v8s got the v6 exhaust. The V6 kept its original exhaust. The minor difference in power ratings between Euro and US V6 is DIN PS vs SAE HP.

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Well, before you go spending any money, I suggest that you go to the registration/inspection office, and ask them what the requirements/restrictions are. :) Good luck!

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or do what I do.
As I have no muffler at all, I wait for the police to disappear round the corner and then slam the gas. He He. :twisted:

(I'm just hoping the police like a V8 rumble)

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Thank you for your answers, even if it's not good news for me.
I don't want to wake the dead each time I start my car, but between that and the stock "limo" sound, I thought there was a happy medium, available in Europe and which would be legal.

Maybe we could ask Remus to work on an aftermarket muffler for our Camaros :D :D :D
But that's surely not enough cars in Europe to be cost-effective. :roll:

By the way, if I don't choose the legal way, what US aftermarket muffler would be a bit louder than the stock one?
What about its price and shipping charges? (these things are heavy...)
I've also heard of a "noise-adjustable" muffler, with discs ? What do you think of that?

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you need to talk to Jens and Ben, they know about the Borla for GE.

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Fred:
I have a Borla cat-back exhaust which has the adjustable plates ranging from solid (closed, quietest) to open (loud). They control how much of the exhaust gas goes through the muffler or bypasses the muffler. At the moment I've the plate with the smallest hole but it's loud enough already especially when you start the engine and it's cold. :D

Hm, I just see you're driving a V6, so ChrisV6 should be able to tell you something more about Borla+V6. :)

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