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Jens
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Post subject: Bilstein HD Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 10:41 am |
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Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:13 pm Posts: 449 Location: Lohne, Germany between Bremen and Osnabrück
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I´m looking for some new shocks for my camaro. I think, konis are to expensive for me. So i think, bilstein HD are the best for me.
Did some of you sell some?
When i´m ordering in the USA, than i must pay tax and "zoll". Do you have an idea, that i don´t must pay this?
I don´t need the shocks urgent. It is fast enough, when i have them next year february.
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Roy
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 11:37 am |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 2:52 pm Posts: 5556 Location: Mehlingen,Rhineland Pfalz, Deutschland
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Jens why do you want to buy them from the states.
The Bilsteins are sold over here through every authorized Bilstein shop, in fact their all built over here and then exported.
I bought mine over here ,infact I bought three sets over here. For me it was cheaper way cheaper , than buying from the states.
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Jens
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:22 pm |
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Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:13 pm Posts: 449 Location: Lohne, Germany between Bremen and Osnabrück
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ups, i thought, they will be cheaper in the USA. Where here in germany bought you?
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Garry
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 12:53 pm |
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Joined: Sat May 26, 2001 9:59 pm Posts: 7823 Location: Bad Hersfeld, Germany
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Get me the exact model you want and I can check with a friend who works at a car part wholesale place ... dunno if it's (much) cheaper, but asking won't hurt ...
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Jens
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:03 pm |
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Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:13 pm Posts: 449 Location: Lohne, Germany between Bremen and Osnabrück
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ok, thanks.
B46-1913 and B46-1914 Bilstein HD
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Roy
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:26 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 2:52 pm Posts: 5556 Location: Mehlingen,Rhineland Pfalz, Deutschland
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Jens wrote: ups, i thought, they will be cheaper in the USA. Where here in germany bought you?
Not with the new Euro rate.
Hey Ben what is that tuning shop in Wiesbaden by the park. I'm thinking Collieurs or something like that.
Also Jens , you might check Premio riefen service http://www.premio.de/
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BenZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:49 pm |
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Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2001 3:53 pm Posts: 2485 Location: Mainz, Germany
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Roy wrote: Hey Ben what is that tuning shop in Wiesbaden by the park. I'm thinking Collieurs or something like that.
http://www.couleur-autosport.de/
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Jens
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:04 pm |
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Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:13 pm Posts: 449 Location: Lohne, Germany between Bremen and Osnabrück
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thanks a lot. I will check out, how much they will cost in germany 
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ChrisV6
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:30 pm |
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Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2001 4:53 pm Posts: 1041 Location: Erlangen <=> Coburg
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I still have a set of used Bilstein HDs with 60.000kms on them, i used them with Eibach Springs which was way too hard for my taste (no dampening, just bouncing of the road  - i should have got them revalved...).
I got them from Bilstein directly.
Do you plan to use lowering springs or stock springs?
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Jens
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:41 pm |
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Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:13 pm Posts: 449 Location: Lohne, Germany between Bremen and Osnabrück
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i will use them with lowering springs.
Are they still ok?
How much for them?
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LS1
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:54 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:39 pm Posts: 88 Location: Hamburg, Germany/Graz, Austria
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@Jens
As long as you gonna use lowering springs you should consider about having the front shocks revalved to match the compression ratio of your springs.
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Roy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:54 am |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 2:52 pm Posts: 5556 Location: Mehlingen,Rhineland Pfalz, Deutschland
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Jens and LS1,
If your using the shocks on other than stock springs Its the rebound that is most critical to get revalved. You will have to add about a extra 85 Euro for that.
Might as well purchase Koni SA shocks for that price . The SA are adjustable on the rebound side.
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Jens
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:48 am |
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Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:13 pm Posts: 449 Location: Lohne, Germany between Bremen and Osnabrück
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 very difficult.
What about this shocks?
Quote: KYB AGX Adjustable Shock
they are adjustable and in my opinion very cheap.
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JackZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:30 am |
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Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 6:03 pm Posts: 8686 Location: Houston, TX
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Some people swear by them Jens, but other people, who have the money for more expensive shocks, will tell you that they're cheap and crappy. I don't know first-hand, so I'm not gonna say they're good or bad. 
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LS1
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:35 am |
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Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:39 pm Posts: 88 Location: Hamburg, Germany/Graz, Austria
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@roy
thanks for the info. I'm running my bilsteins on stock springs and am absolutely happy with my car height and how it handles. However since I've the bilsteins on the car it seems to be a little bit lowered. You know I have the SLP SFC's on the car and if I want to jack up the car, the jack arms wouldn't go under the car unless somebody helps to pull up the car at the fenders (wheel well). So I will not imagine how it would be if I had used lowering springs
@jens
If I were you I would not go with the KYB's. It is for sure an improvement over the oem de carbon shocks but if you are going to buy shocks just spend a little more if you can afford it and buy the Koni's SA for the front (as roy already mentioned) and Bilsteins HD for the rears.
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Roy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:09 pm |
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Jens
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:31 pm |
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Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:13 pm Posts: 449 Location: Lohne, Germany between Bremen and Osnabrück
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i´d just spoken with Bilstein Germany. I´d told him, that i need shocks for a camaro with eibach pro kit springs.
He said, the shocks will be make shorter???
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CandyMan
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:46 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:09 pm Posts: 701 Location: Nuremberg
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maybe he means, that bilstein hd's lower your car by 1"?
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ChrisV6
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:30 pm |
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Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2001 4:53 pm Posts: 1041 Location: Erlangen <=> Coburg
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Jens wrote: He said, the shocks will be make shorter???
He probably meant you should shorten the damper shaft to compensate the lowering (so the shock is still fully extended even with the shorter springs).
Not sure if that works...
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Roy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:17 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 2:52 pm Posts: 5556 Location: Mehlingen,Rhineland Pfalz, Deutschland
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Actually its to recenter the piston in the tube , so that the piston wil not bottom out in the shock tube at full compression.
down side is that you really have to compress the spring to get the shock nut on. Really not much of a problem.
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