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guerardsgt · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2001 7:18 am

I'm picking them up tommorow and I want to install them ASAP. Does anyone know where to buy the C clip eliminator kit. The c clips are what hold the axles into the gear box. I know there is a way to eliminate these clips to make the rear end alot stronger.

two more ?
1. where would be the best place to order a complete engine LT4 sensor kit i'm talking everything from the intake to the oil pan to the transmission.
2. is there a cheaper place to order a new wiring harness besides GM.

I'm trying to eliminate all headaches once it's all togther and running.

fbody97 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2001 8:07 am

You can get it direct from moser engineering. http://www.moserengineering.com

Robert13p3h · **Joined:** Thu Apr 11, 2002 10:10 pm **Posts:** 922

showing my ignorance here, but besides the knock module, what is differant between LT1 and LT4 sensors? Unless your talking about the mass air also, because of the 28# injectors.

guerardsgt · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2001 3:04 pm

No ignoracnce on your part. I worded it wrong that was my fault I need the Lt4 knock module but I want to replace all the sensors which are standard on a stock LT1.

Dark Angel · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2001 4:34 pm

Ryan, try http://www.painlesswiring.com . They do harnesses and stuff. Don't know if they have what you need, but worth a try.

Roy · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2001 5:08 pm

Ryan
you might want to send Moser Engineering an email on the C clip eliminators.
They told me they will not stand upt to the rigors of every day street driving and will fail if used in auto cross , road racing or getting happy in the twisties. The C clips forte is drag racing only.In case you bust an axle it will not walk out on you and giv your car a free tub job.

Krazy · **Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2001 9:24 am

I was seriously considering 4.10 gears also. I figure the car has a 6 speed and only tachs at 2,000 rpm while doing 80 mph right now. The only fear I have is that I will be hurting performance because I won't be able to get any traction. Any thoughts on this?

Hawk · **Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2001 9:44 am

The ford 9 in does not have c clips. C -clip eliminater is for drag racing and should not be tested in the twistees.

99taws6 · **Joined:** Sat May 26, 2001 6:35 pm **Posts:** 954

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I was seriously considering 4.10 gears also. I figure the car has a 6 speed and only tachs at 2,000 rpm while doing 80 mph right now. The only fear I have is that I will be hurting performance because I won't be able to get any traction. Any thoughts on this?

4.10's are good for a N/A car. If you plan on adding power adders, look into a set of 3.73's or keep the stockers... That is what I am doing.....

Hawk · **Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2001 10:55 am

3.73 can get you 11 sec timeslips with trap speeds of 125MPH in 4th

Robert13p3h · **Joined:** Thu Apr 11, 2002 10:10 pm **Posts:** 922

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... The only fear I have is that I will be hurting performance because I won't be able to get any traction. Any thoughts on this?

traction issue is no worse with the 4.10's, and probably helps gas mileage because 6th is now a useable gear.

If you go PA like George said, then you probably would be better off with 3.42.

Definetally the best SOTP bang for the buck I have done, it will make you feel like you added 50hp.

Krazy · **Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2001 12:20 pm

Right now I am leaning towards heads, cam and nitrous. Just looking for low 12's for now, but I know once I get there I will want more. I just think that 6th gear is worthless right now. Hmm, 4.10s about $200, I think that might be do able. I know when I put 3.73s in my Mustang(it had 2.73s) I was all worried because I didn't want it to be to much and after I put them in I was like man, I should have gotten 4.10s. The 3.73s just weren't enough. So I would probably choose the 4.10s. I will have to ponder this a little while.

99taws6 · **Joined:** Sat May 26, 2001 6:35 pm **Posts:** 954

4.10's with Nitrous is not going to be good... You will hurt your times.. GO no more than 3.73's

Robert13p3h · **Joined:** Thu Apr 11, 2002 10:10 pm **Posts:** 922

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4.10's with Nitrous is not going to be good... You will hurt your times.. GO no more than 3.73's

for most people I would agree

99taws6 · **Joined:** Sat May 26, 2001 6:35 pm **Posts:** 954

Wow... Rob agreed with me.... I am so smart

Robert13p3h · **Joined:** Thu Apr 11, 2002 10:10 pm **Posts:** 922

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Wow... Rob agreed with me.... I am so smart

notice I said for most people! The other 10percent with skill I would say get the 4.10's :-ok:

99taws6 · **Joined:** Sat May 26, 2001 6:35 pm **Posts:** 954

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Wow... Rob agreed with me.... I am so smart

notice I said for most people! The other 10percent with skill I would say get the 4.10's :-ok:

I have heard that even the good driver will hurt with 4.10's I guess it would depend if you are spraying out of the hole or not.... 150rwhp shot of good ole TNT N2O will make those 4.10's reach redline really quick....

Krazy · **Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2001 2:17 pm

I can't say that I have ever used NOS before. I was thinking I would hit it in second after I had launched and found some traction again. I don't even know what to do. Heck $200 for 4.10 gears and it will probably be 2 years before I ever get the heads and cam, so I could always change the gears to 3.73 if the 4.10s turn out to be to much.

Hawk · **Posted:** Tue Dec 04, 2001 5:52 pm

FWIW NOS is the bigest bang for the buck when setup correctly and you could get 12s with that single mod. Done wrong and and it could be the most expensive mod.

Robert13p3h · **Joined:** Thu Apr 11, 2002 10:10 pm **Posts:** 922

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FWIW NOS is the bigest bang for the buck when setup correctly and you could get 12s with that single mod. Done wrong and and it could be the most expensive mod.

Even when setup wrong, its still the biggest BANG for the buck

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bought 4:10's ????

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