F-Body Europe

I think someone must have ordered their LS1 from the dealer with the LS1 "big head" package:) When I get done with my car (which will not be while I am over here) you will think you were sleeping at the lights! Peace

[quoteI think someone must have ordered their LS1 from the dealer with the LS1 "big head" package:) When I get done with my car (which will not be while I am over here) you will think you were sleeping at the lights! Peace[/quote]

Its probably more the stock on stock thing. The big head syndrome turns into the empty head syndrome as soon as the LT1 changes heads. Everyone that knows anything about engines understands that power is made above the pistons, or more to the point, in the heads. The LS1 head is a masterpiece, its the rest of the motor that needs work. Go ahead and port your OE heads, or go with LT4 (ported) and you've practically leveled the playing field.

Those that try to tear you down are crazy. I was running equal to or better than any LS1 I every met, with headers and K&N. Now its a new ball game. Hawk can talk all the turkey he wants, cuz he knows he wont ever be put in a put up or shut up situation. Personally I think it is being in Europe to long, come back to the states where the real cars run.

BTW, MR. Birdy, one of these days........one of these days.....POW....right to the finish line

I've been thinking about it and I think I am going to go with the LT4 conversion. That way later I can have the LT4 heads and intake ported and that will make more power than the ported LT1 heads. So in the long run it will save me some money. So as it stands right now I am planning LT4 conversion and 75-100 shot of crack. That should keep me happy for a week or two I just wish I was already in the states so I could get this going!!!

To tell you the truth, LT1 heads will take you as fast as you want to go. You can always hog the hell out of them and get them to flow what ever. Ever heard of a set of "welded" LT1 heads?

But it seems you are set on LT4 then go for it, it will be more unique.

I am sure there are some really fast LT1 out there and it sounds like you have a really nice setup that I would love to put in my rear veiw mirror. Krazy sounds like you are willing to play which win or loose you sound kewl to me. Now is far as the big head package it is the block right under WU6. This package comes with SCAT Speed,Concentration,Audacity,& Tempo. Yes I am currently training in Graf and learned a new term. I like the LT1 and sounds like you have a plan but I do agree with Rob and the head game so go for it. I am trying to be nice and that is rare. So I still have $150 on the Hawk and plan to sharpen my driving skills on the Abahn for at least 2 more years. and turn low 11's at will!!!!

Well my goal is to just hit 11's. But I am in it more for fun than anything. I think 11's are a dream for me, but I will see once I get to the states and start the build up. I do plan on keeping the SS very streetable so I won't do anything "Krazy" to get any good numbers. I just want a car that is respectible on the street. And to me that is being able to run 11's any time any where! I just don't like to see anyones taillights when I race:)

Kewl I am sure we could line them up for fun. I also like to go to shows and cruise europe.

Krazy: I have stock LT4 heads & intake & hot cam kit & ed wright mail order program. Exhaust is 1 5/8 hooker shorties & cat-back. With this setup car has run 173 kmh trap speed.

Driveability is very close to stock, don't know about emissions. I'm not sure if I would reccommend this kit as it seems you can get hp, for less $$$.

I did choose it because at the time when I was on the market looking for power upgrades, this kit was just released and nobody had any user experience except the magazine article mentioned here already. 425 hp, for appr. $2500 (incl 58 mm. TB, timing chain) seemed like nice power gain for the money.

You can check out complete mod list on my homepage, link is in the sig.

I read where you dont have any timing equipment, so I'm wondering how they came up with your trap speed. 173km = 104mph roughly. To me, that is to low, you should have more hp than a stock LT1. Of course I'm not real sure what kind of elevation and stuff your at.

You might want to think about running a pass with the stock 48mm Tbody, then switching to the 58mm. I would think that is to large of a Tbody for your mods.

When during your modfest, did you have the PCM flashed? Also when was the last time you checked for DTC's?

Really admire your dedication, must be a real pain to get anything for/done to a camaro.

Keep on keeping on
Rob

Rob Check out the link for his time
http://www.tqhq.ee/en/est/ts2.jpg

Thanx Roy, I looked at that slip, but until you said that, I never looked.

Something is strange



you have his time, then above it, you have a person with 3/100 better '60 running 170km with a 2/10 better time, then you have a guy with a 3/10 better '60 running 176km and a full second better time???

using the 'ol trap speed as a indicator of power these 3 cars are real close.

Seems to me that the power these cars have is being wasted by 2 of them on some serious 1-2, 2-3 shifts.

Rob: 173 kmh is 107,4 mph, which isn't that great, but as far as I know stock car should run traps around 96-99 mph, so I'm not that close to stock.

Your idea of switching back to stock TB sounds interesting, although I haven't heard that 58 mm. TB would hurt performance of the car with mild heads&cam package. I see even internally stock motors running larger Tb without negative impact. But still, I might try that.

You guessed very well whats behind those times on this result list, Dart run on ET Streets and had well working suspension setup, Nova is automatic with mild 350&small dose of nitrous, but he had some serious issues with hooking up and also problems with transmission - it shifted too early.

I couldn't hook either, because the track (abandoned Soviet airfield) was very bumpy and dirty and yes, I shifted too carefully, because few weeks before, I misshifted from 3 to 2 and that scared the s*it out of me and I just didn't dare to powerhift.

The timing equipment we used, was pretty good, we rent it from Finland and results should be therefore comparable with results you see elsewhere on the net.

Getting stuff here is pain sometimes, but mostly it's the shipping charges that kill me - for some unkonown reason to ship here is much more expensive than to ship to Germany. And sure there is nobody who knows anything about our cars, but thanks to internet I have managed quite sucessfully to solve all the problems with it.

The website you saw is actually pretty large, but mostly in my own language - I'm one of the guys who is running it and the idea is to promote and give information about muscle cars to the locals in their own language, although most of the younger people here do speak english. We have had quite of success, message board has 300+ active members and many of them own V8 engined rwd us cars which are also raced actively. This may sound like not much, but in relatively poor country with population less that 1,5 millions, where first western cars appeared 12 years ago its quite good progress IMO.

Ott, your right, I just did what I should have in the first place instead of using the 'ol .6 military quick coversion in my math challenged brain. 173.08km = 107.551912mph.

All things considered then, your running pretty good I think. Low 13's @107mph with almost a 2.3 '60.

12.7-12.9 @ 107-110 when your ready to let it rip

Take care
Rob