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Garry
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Post subject: "Germany to remain as top US base" Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 10:55 am |
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Joined: Sat May 26, 2001 9:59 pm Posts: 7823 Location: Bad Hersfeld, Germany
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Just got this forwarded ... DPA report ...
Quote: Germany to remain as top US base
27 November 2003
MUNICH - Germany is to remain the most important foreign base for the US military with far fewer troops being withdrawn as thought under plans by the Bush administration to reshuffle its global military presence, a press report said Thursday.
The Sueddeutsche Zeitung newspaper said it had learned that up to 80 percent of the 70,000 US troops in Germany would remain stationed in the country and that Washington has no plans to set up bases in Poland, Bulgaria or Romania as considered earlier this year.
According to the newspaper's information, it is also regarded as certain that bases in Asia will be closed.
The report, which gave no official source, said that although the Bush administration is about to launch formal talks with a host of allies the military overhaul has already been approved internally.
For Germany, it means far fewer troop reductions than had been envisaged after the end of the war in Iraq.
The White House has rejected sweeping reductions proposed by General James Jones, head of US European Command, and will retain 80 percent of its forces in Germany, the report said.
Bases at Ramstein, Frankfurt and logistical centres on the North Sea coast will remain, as well as most of the German-based infantry units including the First Armoured Division.
With many of the German-based troops active in Iraq, Washington has decided that armed forces families should not be placed under further strain which could affect troop morale, the report said.
Germany also provided a safe and friendly environment, and despite the row with Berlin over the Iraq war the German government had been a reliable partner. It had not refused overfly rights or imposed restrictions on movements during the Iraq war, and had also provided additional security outside bases, the report said.
The decision means that plans to move bases to new NATO member Poland or designated NATO countries Bulgaria or Romania will not be pursued. Washington believes the expense of establishing new infrastructure in those countries would be too high in view of the present strains on the budget.
Meanwhile bases in Asia, especially South Korea, are set for closure. Hostility towards the US military presence in the region is believed to be a factor in the decision, it was reported.
US President George W. Bush had on Tuesday announced the United States would be realigning its military posture worldwide to accommodate the terrorist threat in what will be the most sweeping shift in the U.S. military presence abroad since World War II
Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld will brief colleagues at NATO ministerial meetings next week, and Secretary of State Colin Powell will take it up a few days later with NATO foreign ministers.
The concept is expected to be announced and approved early next year.
The administration has indicated that nations such as Germany, Japan and South Korea could see a significant decrease in the US military presence as the Pentagon focuses on the "war on terror".
Bush cited the unpredictable dangers associated with "rogue nations, global terrorism and weapons of mass destruction" as prompting the move.
"While we continue to make progress in the transformation of our uniformed military, it remains for us to realign the global posture of our forces to better address these new challenges," he said.
Bush reassured allies that the review of US overseas force posture would "strengthen existing relationships" and increase Washington's ability to carry out defence commitments.
well, looks like we'll continue to have & get enough US personell to keep FBE alive 
_________________ Garry Glendown * '99 Firehawk Convertible
"Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you take the wall with you." "Speed doesn't kill - suddenly becoming stationary on the other hand ..."
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Roy
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:20 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 2:52 pm Posts: 5556 Location: Mehlingen,Rhineland Pfalz, Deutschland
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BenZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 1:06 pm |
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Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2001 3:53 pm Posts: 2485 Location: Mainz, Germany
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Garry: Yes, that's good news!
Roy: That means that there'll be a permanent base for the 1st AD in Iraq? But you will return to Germany in 2004, won't you?
Ben
_________________ 1999 Camaro Z28, black, T-Tops, M6
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Garry
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 1:16 pm |
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Joined: Sat May 26, 2001 9:59 pm Posts: 7823 Location: Bad Hersfeld, Germany
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But then, I'm always careful when politics, military etc. are involved ... here in Hersfeld, the Army fixed up all the buildings and stuff on Post, then half a year later closed it down ...  Similar thing happened in Fulda ...
_________________ Garry Glendown * '99 Firehawk Convertible
"Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you take the wall with you." "Speed doesn't kill - suddenly becoming stationary on the other hand ..."
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Squirrelina
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:19 pm |
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Joined: Sat Apr 13, 2002 2:00 am Posts: 2530 Location: Höheischweiler, SüdWestPfalz
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Garry, that is everywhere the same. Some agreement says, that places will be returned at best conditions... and I have seen MANY places beeing fixed up before returned...
and at the moment I see a lot of renovation projects everywhere... not want to be pessimistic, just counting 1 and 1 together.
_________________ Silke
"It's easy to make a buck. It's a lot tougher to make a difference" --Tom Brokaw
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Squirrelina
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:20 pm |
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Joined: Sat Apr 13, 2002 2:00 am Posts: 2530 Location: Höheischweiler, SüdWestPfalz
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but maybe I am just travelling too much in between those bases allover...
_________________ Silke
"It's easy to make a buck. It's a lot tougher to make a difference" --Tom Brokaw
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Daddy
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 12:22 am |
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Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:59 pm Posts: 2334 Location: Little Rock Arkansas
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I sure as hell wouldn't want to go to Poland. Ramstein will be here forever probably.
They are talking about making it a "super" base. With everything, I mean EVERYTHING
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Squirrelina
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:31 am |
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Joined: Sat Apr 13, 2002 2:00 am Posts: 2530 Location: Höheischweiler, SüdWestPfalz
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Yo, big constructions, BIG ones.
And then when their done they will pass it over.
I hope NOT.
_________________ Silke
"It's easy to make a buck. It's a lot tougher to make a difference" --Tom Brokaw
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JackZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 7:36 am |
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Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 6:03 pm Posts: 8686 Location: Houston, TX
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Garry
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:07 am |
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Joined: Sat May 26, 2001 9:59 pm Posts: 7823 Location: Bad Hersfeld, Germany
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Hm ... can anything they build here compete with the malls in the States?
_________________ Garry Glendown * '99 Firehawk Convertible
"Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and torque is how far you take the wall with you." "Speed doesn't kill - suddenly becoming stationary on the other hand ..."
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Squirrelina
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:55 pm |
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Joined: Sat Apr 13, 2002 2:00 am Posts: 2530 Location: Höheischweiler, SüdWestPfalz
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this one might
Military travelling from US towards east and return will in-between stop at Ramstein.
Americas Super Base outside US with Super Mall
_________________ Silke
"It's easy to make a buck. It's a lot tougher to make a difference" --Tom Brokaw
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Roy
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 4:18 am |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 2:52 pm Posts: 5556 Location: Mehlingen,Rhineland Pfalz, Deutschland
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