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Post subject: This is not my dyno, but.... Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 8:45 am |
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Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:37 am Posts: 284 Location: schweinfurt, Germany
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Quote: R4C 307rwhp? Jeez man I put that down at 3400 rpm my redline is 7K. Don't even wanna know my torque......can you say 360+ from 1800 rpm w/ a max of 460rwtq? You need more money to play w/ us.  It's good you have that in the states because it would just serve me as a paper weight here. You beatin LS1's and they're stk? Yeah I could see that but barely...you sure aren't blowin there doors off. But modded LS1's say stage II heads and cam? Sorry there guy not w/ 307rwhapees. That's like selling your soul for a tic tac. "Looking for face on floor to put back on head" LOL a dyno of a 300zx with what my car already has plus larger injectors and bigger turbos(the smallest upgrades, there are alot larger ones, but these are close to the ones I have) Guess my money was well spent, huh? Looks like you need more $$$ to play with me:) http://allthewaynice.com/z/sheet.jpg
_________________ 1990 300zxTT
426rwhp, 425rwtq @ 18psi, 93 oct.
Big turbos waiting to go on
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 8:50 am |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 3:42 pm Posts: 3430 Location: FL
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My stroker wasn't built for drag. My entire car has been a making in the process for autobahn country for the last 5 yrs. Check the member's sig. and see for yourself. You definetly don't have to believe the numbers but I'll tell you this. Right out the crate my custom built stroker untuned 425rwhp and that's being modest by the builder. Since we don't have dyno tune shop's here it could be anywhere in range of hp from a low 375 to 425rwhp. But I'll put it to you this way.
Running 68psi of fp shop recommending 55 both are way too rich and fouled 4 sets of plugs in 2 month period. Ran a 01 911TT w/out the engine being broke in. 100mph roll we ran neck in neck to 150mph. The Toy didn't like going past 4800 rpm's w/out seriously straining.
So now the psi is a lean 41. She'll spin to 7K easy. The last TT moved over @ 160+ because he got tired of me being on his ass. Top end and my 3.23 gear on the autobahn ain't nothing pretty. Ask JR. Newly installed 3.73's headers, CAI, etc. Granted a 350ci but from a 50mph roll on the bahn he got crushed. Put 5 lengths on em in 2 gear alone. Got gerard to back it up. He was my co-pilot. eh-eh
So you wanna try turbo'd 200sx? I've seen a vid clip of one back in the states put 1 car length on a LS1 and he was stk. 200sx was running 16psi I believe. Went from dead stop and the SX walked em after 3rd gear.
Bring it on.
Yeah my numbers may be inflated or deflated. Only you'll know after the race. eh-eh;)
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 8:55 am |
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Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:37 am Posts: 284 Location: schweinfurt, Germany
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hmmm...my subject didn't come up, that's NOT MY DYNO....another 'z' with same mods plus upgraded turbos and larger injectors....actually he has 550cc injectors(bout 52lb.), I have 740cc injectors...hahaha...I plan on using all that fuel too;)....stock injector size is 380cc. My car should have a flatter torque curve than his as well as a higher peak hp, my turbos supposedly flow slightly more than the ones he's running, and he has a single intake still, I'll be running a dual intake set-up(the only thing I don't have yet  ....dyno will tell, though...as you can see, I ain't scurred!!! now, with this 200sx almost 900lb. lighter than you, how much rwhp will I need to make to match your power-to-weight ratio, I would do the math, but, you never said what your peak hp was.
_________________ 1990 300zxTT
426rwhp, 425rwtq @ 18psi, 93 oct.
Big turbos waiting to go on
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 8:57 am |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 3:42 pm Posts: 3430 Location: FL
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Why didn't you bring the 300Z over here? How can you own the left lane and it's sitting in the lot? I hope you bring it so you can back your claims of owning the left lane.
I ran 300TT when I was stock. Dead stock. And he barely walked me past 100mph. I know he had more than me because he began to pull even more but not significantly. Sort've like a LT1 running a LS1. Once they get up top it's over for most. Sometime's down low they'll take a LT1 too. 50-50. Isn't anyone stk around to try it out though.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 9:00 am |
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Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:37 am Posts: 284 Location: schweinfurt, Germany
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kewl, now I have a goal, you and I are going to become good friends;)...I needed someone to set a goal for...congratulations!!! you are it...of course there is alwayz my good friend Glen Ward, but his car won't be streetable this year, he's gonna be a trailer queen...hmmm. wonder where 'ol bruce sweeny is? Quote: My stroker wasn't built for drag. My entire car has been a making in the process for autobahn country for the last 5 yrs. Check the member's sig. and see for yourself. You definetly don't have to believe the numbers but I'll tell you this. Right out the crate my custom built stroker untuned 425rwhp and that's being modest by the builder. Since we don't have dyno tune shop's here it could be anywhere in range of hp from a low 375 to 425rwhp. But I'll put it to you this way.
Running 68psi of fp shop recommending 55 both are way too rich and fouled 4 sets of plugs in 2 month period. Ran a 01 911TT w/out the engine being broke in. 100mph roll we ran neck in neck to 150mph. The Toy didn't like going past 4800 rpm's w/out seriously straining.
So now the psi is a lean 41. She'll spin to 7K easy. The last TT moved over @ 160+ because he got tired of me being on his ass. Top end and my 3.23 gear on the autobahn ain't nothing pretty. Ask JR. Newly installed 3.73's headers, CAI, etc. Granted a 350ci but from a 50mph roll on the bahn he got crushed. Put 5 lengths on em in 2 gear alone. Got gerard to back it up. He was my co-pilot. eh-eh
So you wanna try turbo'd 200sx? I've seen a vid clip of one back in the states put 1 car length on a LS1 and he was stk. 200sx was running 16psi I believe. Went from dead stop and the SX walked em after 3rd gear.
Bring it on.
Yeah my numbers may be inflated or deflated. Only you'll know after the race. eh-eh;)
_________________ 1990 300zxTT
426rwhp, 425rwtq @ 18psi, 93 oct.
Big turbos waiting to go on
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 9:04 am |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 3:42 pm Posts: 3430 Location: FL
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Peak hp is something classified. Ha-ha. J/K. It's around 6200. Those numbers are impressive. However my torque curve is flat and looong. That's where you run into trouble. Hp wise it's a nice number. I've yet to add any boost but if I did go the turbo route myself. t56's single. 8--rwhp and 9--rwtq is extremely possible. But that's just too much for the street or daily use. Well not around here anyways.
6lbs is on order now the S/C route so now I'll be above 600. Torque will be ungodly for such low boost too.
Now that 200 yeah it's lighter. But that's it. It ain't gonna run up top and if it does for how long? I could shed some weight as well which I've done so far but nothing extreme. There comes a point when to quit. Ya know?
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 9:10 am |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 3:42 pm Posts: 3430 Location: FL
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Bruce has handed Glen his lunch on the track. So you might want to rethink your strategy. Bruce is running strong too for a 6. Don't worry Bruce I'll keep your stuff a secret like Area51.
You've might have just ran some slow cars in the states that's possible or you are as fast as you say you are. Why is it you are bring your Z again?
That's what I want to know.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 9:10 am |
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Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:37 am Posts: 284 Location: schweinfurt, Germany
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See all that fiberglass around my car, if I ship it it won't be there, my stereo system would be history, and my car would probably be driven un-mercifully...I'm planning on owning the left lane with this "little" 200sx, I know how to get power out of these little cars...My eclispe, I had dynoed here(ford dealership, so I don't know how the numbers stack up against a dynojet) with realled fu***d compression; result; 186fwhp, 275lb.ft....stock intercooler, stock fuel pressure, stock injectors, 255lt.hr. fuel pump, 2 1/2"turbo back exhaust, set of street cams, 178,000miles  ...matter of fact, I just checked the osl website, a pic of the 'ol eclispe is on the front page right next to that burgundy nustang GT everyone was ripping up at simbach(I had to get some too!)...comming to the July 27th race in bitburg? Quote: Why didn't you bring the 300Z over here? How can you own the left lane and it's sitting in the lot? I hope you bring it so you can back your claims of owning the left lane.
I ran 300TT when I was stock. Dead stock. And he barely walked me past 100mph. I know he had more than me because he began to pull even more but not significantly. Sort've like a LT1 running a LS1. Once they get up top it's over for most. Sometime's down low they'll take a LT1 too. 50-50. Isn't anyone stk around to try it out though.
_________________ 1990 300zxTT
426rwhp, 425rwtq @ 18psi, 93 oct.
Big turbos waiting to go on
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 9:16 am |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 3:42 pm Posts: 3430 Location: FL
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That's why you remove the stereo. They don't even allow the car to shipped w/out that stuff being removed. It's also called insurance and documentation.
As far as the fiberglass I've seen cars w/ more come over here w/out a scratch. If that's the case private ship it it only cost a grand. And looking at that car and your plans for the 200 I'm sure you can afford that.
Quit being a chump and bring it over here man.  You'll have a better chance of embarrasing me w/ the TT vs 4cyl. Oh and trust me I never over look the competition.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 9:23 am |
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Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:37 am Posts: 284 Location: schweinfurt, Germany
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HUH? when did this happen? I haven't hear this one, gotta go terrorise Glen right now!! hahaha, Glen ran 11.7x last year, I've seen Bruce running last year, I'm sure he wasn't in the 11's, but I don't know, I challenged him to a run on the bahn with the eclispe, he put me on ignore....so you think an SR20DET can run top end,huh? hehehe...here are the simple ingerdients I'm gonna use to run top-end easily, having two cams and 4 valves per cylinder goes a long way in making top-end; recipe; one big a$$ turbo, mixed with 270/270 cams and 740cc injectors, mixed with a cobra maf ,but most likely an afm from a ttz, plus all the supporting mods....you add the blower, I'll will leave you alone:)....I'll find smaller game to pick on then, don't wanna build the 200sx to radical. how are you going to run 6lbs. on that stroker, how high is your compression now? I'm guessing at least 11.0:1(and that's being cconservative)...well, you've got aftermarket heads, so you might not have a prob with detonation on 6lbs....what's bruce doing? I like him, he can talk almost as much syte as me! hahaha. Quote: Bruce has handed Glen his lunch on the track. So you might want to rethink your strategy. Bruce is running strong too for a 6. Don't worry Bruce I'll keep your stuff a secret like Area51.
You've might have just ran some slow cars in the states that's possible or you are as fast as you say you are. Why is it you are bring your Z again?
That's what I want to know.
_________________ 1990 300zxTT
426rwhp, 425rwtq @ 18psi, 93 oct.
Big turbos waiting to go on
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 9:43 am |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 3:42 pm Posts: 3430 Location: FL
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Not running that high but I'm close to 11. Totally forged and billet. Nothing a little timing being pulled won't cure to avoid detonation. I find a intercooler I'll go higher.
Bruce NOT wanting to race? That's a 1st but then again he does like big prey (no offense). There is another guy down there name Brian drives a red Z. Huge rims in the back can't miss him and loud. Try him on he won't turn you down.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 9:53 am |
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Joined: Tue May 29, 2001 10:04 am Posts: 1280 Location: FT Drum Ny
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John I'll back that night up on the bahn, you had me looking for the Oh Shi# handle. I want to see you race this guy maybe we can make this a 4000.00 bet. We can make 2000.00 of the fiat boy and 2gs off this guy. That's some mod money
P.s. don't rice burners have there own web pages 
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 10:30 am |
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Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:37 am Posts: 284 Location: schweinfurt, Germany
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Yep, but I like talking to the competition, besides, most rice pages are just that, "I want jdm parts so I look cool", my wing is bigger than yours, blah,blah...I'm a performance freak(still like to look good though)...what's wrong? you afraid you get beat by a 'little' four banger;) ...trust me, you wouldn't be the first or last. Quote: John I'll back that night up on the bahn, you had me looking for the Oh Shi# handle. I want to see you race this guy maybe we can make this a 4000.00 bet. We can make 2000.00 of the fiat boy and 2gs off this guy. That's some mod money P.s. don't rice burners have there own web pages 
_________________ 1990 300zxTT
426rwhp, 425rwtq @ 18psi, 93 oct.
Big turbos waiting to go on
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 10:43 am |
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Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:37 am Posts: 284 Location: schweinfurt, Germany
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Hey, I just noticed you are in Geib....oh boy!!! your in trouble now...I'm about to get on A7 right now...I gonna wrie me a kill story tomorrow:)...wanna hook up one friday and go to nurnberg, I know some mustang guyz from Graf that go down there too, and a built older 200sx, they are all cool people...one or two of the stangs are s/c'd and another has a stroker, the others are bolt-ons...anyone else is free to come too...I don't remember seeing any f-bodies there last summer. Quote: Oh, good one LuS1fer. Just keep dumping $$ into that Nissan, maybe one day you can keep up with all those 'F-body Buddies' you mentioned. Good luck, run4cover.
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_________________ 1990 300zxTT
426rwhp, 425rwtq @ 18psi, 93 oct.
Big turbos waiting to go on
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 12:41 pm |
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Joined: Tue May 29, 2001 10:04 am Posts: 1280 Location: FT Drum Ny
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Quote: That 300zxtt is in the states, and it's staying there...I've killed more than enough LS-1 powered everything to not even worry about you guyz/girlz...what you need to worry about is my nissan 200sx (probably not until next year though) just bought it last week...but it has mad potential...uhhh...I mean the potential to make you LS-1 drivers mad  .......you people seriously need to learn about your competitions potential to make lots of power for not alot of $$...dollar for dollar that 300 kills you as far as power per dollar spent....go get some N2o and come talk to me.
I'm not afraid to run against anyone. I'm the kinda person if I get beat then it's ok with me. I know there are individuals out there with faster cars than me. I'm just a different person than you. I don't need to go to another board and talk crap right off the bat. The bad thing is your saying from my understanding that no one on this board can beat your 200sx. I hate to tell you there buddy but I'm pretty sure there are individuals on this board that would hand you your azz in either drag or street racing. All I've seen from you is post after post saying no one will ever win agaist your cars I find this hard to believe. I think you should go to one of your rice boards and talk about how many ground effects and stickers you can put on your cars. If your into the performance aspect of the game then talk performance and stop talking Shi# You've been talking shi# since the very begining. I had to add your quote in there just incase you forgot. Do you want me to add more?
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 12:57 pm |
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Quote: Hey, I just noticed you are in Geib....oh boy!!! your in trouble now...I'm about to get on A7 right now...I gonna wrie me a kill story tomorrow:)
Yep I am at GIEB, see the 'i' is before the 'e', other wise it would sound funny. It's a German thang. So you having ADAC bring that 200 over here or what? Or will I see an Eclipse in the rearview of my Fiat soon? You won't see my Camaro though unless you go to Tony's.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 5:56 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 3:42 pm Posts: 3430 Location: FL
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Man it so much fun reading this! R4C I may need a favor from you. Do you know of a nissan shop down in your area? Have a friend looking for euro spec headlights for 96 or newer 240z high intensity lights. Haven't seen one in our area and since you drive one figured you may know of one.
Well thanks man.
You still need to bring the TT too. 
_________________ The "SRZ" 750rwhp, limited to 55mph flyby's in the US. 02' MY Z06, Cam, LT headers, X-pipe, Breathless CAI, Borla Stinger exh, RSD short shifter, Elite catch can, C6Z susp, CCW classic's 18x10 & 18x12...your normal everyday Z06.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 6:22 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2002 11:37 am Posts: 284 Location: schweinfurt, Germany
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hehehe...I'll look around man....hey!!! tell your boyz to loosen their g-strings, you seem to be the only cool one here, don't these guyz know I'm just pulling their chains to get a reaction?:)....everyone knows a silly little 4 banger could never beat any V8!....I'm just glad to find some performance freaks in Germany other than myself and Glen. I'm cool guyz, don't think I'm trying to start shyt, just having some fun. to the person who said I sadi I could beat everyone on this board, please find where I said that, if I did, I will retract that statement. I do recall saying I will spank most of you, and I will:)...just give me some time to get this thing modded up...if I get beat, then feel free to rag me, I don't mind, gives me insentive to go faster, not like I've never been beat before..to make you happy I'll give a quick list of some cars that killed me in my 'z'; LS-1 with header,exhaust,lid and 125 shot, LT-1 with header/exhaust, 150shot; supercharged cobra with ATI pro chargere/intercooled and 4.96 gears...been beat plenty of times at the drag strip, but I didn't build my car to drag. the LS-1 had 1 car length on me in a race from ~30-90mph, he wasn't pulling anything at 90 when he let up, he refused to run me from 70-125, said something about his car not pulling hard in fourth:)....LT-1 had me by a car also, think he had more than what I listed done, he was a pretty shaddy person, I pissed him off the weekend before, he was spraying 100 shot and we were neck and neck everytime we raced, very next weekend he was pulling a car,hehehe....cobra and I were neck and neck from a 30mph roll until I grabbed third gear, hahaha, looked like something kicked him in the a$$...he pulled 1 1/2 cars in the amount of time It took me to go from 60 to 80mph...we couldn't go any faster, was on an industrial road, that was too short. see, I don't think I'm invincible, I just know what I can beat from all the street racing I've done. happy now? Quote: Man it so much fun reading this! R4C I may need a favor from you. Do you know of a nissan shop down in your area? Have a friend looking for euro spec headlights for 96 or newer 240z high intensity lights. Haven't seen one in our area and since you drive one figured you may know of one. Well thanks man. You still need to bring the TT too. 
_________________ 1990 300zxTT
426rwhp, 425rwtq @ 18psi, 93 oct.
Big turbos waiting to go on
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 6:58 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 3:42 pm Posts: 3430 Location: FL
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Alot of em are frustrated that's all. No good races to find that's all. They mean no harm either. Bring the TT put some stk springs on there to lift it up and bring her. No excuses!
Thanks for doing me the favor too. I'm sure our paths will cross soon.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 7:16 pm |
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Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 7:46 pm Posts: 1091 Location: El Paso, TX
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Quote: hehehe...I'll look around man....hey!!! tell your boyz to loosen their g-strings, you seem to be the only cool one here, don't these guyz know I'm just pulling their chains to get a reaction?:)
Wait... I ain't cool? And I was trying too.
I was just trying to figure out who you were... I think we met. I was the one that came up to get the slicks from Gled that day. Were you the young guy putting a belt on a ricer talking trash or were you the older guy that came up later with the blue coveralls? Or am I wrong?
BTW, didn't see you on Gieb... must have passed ya.
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