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no you didn't beat that 454 by alot, I got it all on tape, plus I was right there watching...for you to waste my eclispe by 7+ cars, you must be running low tens...suuuure you could beat Glens old set-up, but we'll never know, will we?;)
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I beat that 454SS by alot with my old stock motor. I will waste ya by 7+ carlengths in the 1/4 if your lucky. I am sure I could beat Glens car now if he had his old setup.


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R4C - First off turbo eclipse's are famous for being extremely easy and cheap to make run 10-12 seconds and still be a daily driven street cars. So for you to brag that you proved yourself with your turbo eclipes means nothing to me. You only need to drop like $2,000 in to a turbo eclipse to make it run 12's. The fact that you choose to run Nissan turbo vehicles does not make you a turbo expert as you seem to be trying to protray yourself as. It's really tough taking a factory turbo engine and turn up the boost, putting a free flowing exhaust, and intake on it, to make it run fast. WOW, you are an expert now.

Then you claim to have a 300zxTT that is way out of our leage. But wait where is it????? Oh that's right it is at your home in the states in storage. Do you know how many times I have heard that line of BS? "Back home I have a _____(insert vehicle of choice here) and it would wax your *ss in a race, but I didn't ship it over because_____(insert excuse here)." Or "I had a _______(insert vehicle here) and it ran 10's in the quarter, but when I was in basic training I let my ________(insert relative or friend here) and they wrecked it into a __________(insert object here)."

So just go play with your 200x and when you are ready to come out and race do it. Stop wasting our time replying to your endless babbling about how great you are. Peace :)

Thanks, you just proved my point for me...hope your buddies were listening;) ...maybe you should go back and read everything I wrote, I've given dyno numbers for the 300zxtt...why would I think it was un-beatable? ...someone told me I had to spend a ton of money to run with yall....that's not true, I actually have to spend less money than you to run comparable times/dyno numbers...me claiming to be a turbo expert? nah, I'm sure I have more experience tuning them than you, just like you know more about comaros than I do...like I said before, my 'z' isn't the subject of discussion here, why yall keep bringing it up? yall feel threatened? don't worry, as soon as I get some pics of the 200sx, I'll change my sig;) ....TUNING factory turbo cars isn't as simple as you try to make it sound, you think you just bolt stuff on and run 12's? c'mon, you should know better, but, making a statement like that, you probably got the whole damn summit catalog on your car and still running 13's ;)


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To be honest I lifted because I was a comfortable distance 3+ car lengths and I had more power. So bottom line will you be ready at the end of the month? Prolly not so I will not sweat ya. Not that I did anyway I am sure there are faster street cars out there I just not found one yet.


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blah,blah,blah....suuuuure bruce, you also beat your boy with the pewter t/a too, right? :)
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To be honest I lifted because I was a comfortable distance 3+ car lengths and I had more power. So bottom line will you be ready at the end of the month? Prolly not so I will not sweat ya. Not that I did anyway I am sure there are faster street cars out there I just not found one yet.

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Are you going to keep egging Bruce on until he admits your the $hit? Not going to happen bro. Just relax and come race your car. No need for anymore arguing. In other words, "How about a warm glass of shut the hell up?!"

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Car looks sweet Mike. I never said I have never been beat cant win them all always someone quicker but (I know where I lost that race and 150 Bones @ the line and apply lessons learned. Loosing everyonce and a while is a good excuse to mod up. (I now have a new engine from Katech and some other stuff)


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TUNING factory turbo cars isn't as simple as you try to make it sound, you think you just bolt stuff on and run 12's? c'mon, you should know better, but, making a statement like that, you probably got the whole damn summit catalog on your car and still running 13's ;)


I am sorry to disagree with you but, tuning a factory turbo engine is actually very simple compared to tuning a non-factory boosted engine. And Yes, pretty much all you need to do is bolt stuff on and run fast. The factory has done all of the difficult stuff for you. Your silvia is what a K14? So you throw a 3" exhaust and cold air intake. Get a boost controller and up the boost. Bam, you probably just gained 50-100 HP and didn't even have to touch anything electrical. Now you want some more power you get bigger injectors and bigger/better intercooler. Maybe upgrade the turbo and turn the boost up some more. Get the computer chipped/reprogramed and Bam, you have more HP. That sounds pretty dang simple to me, and everyone else that does the same thing as you are doing seems to think it is pretty d*mn simple. I guess you must just have a hard time turning wrenches or something.

I do have some knowledge of turbo engines and I probably have more knowlegde of imports then I do Camaros, but I am not claiming to be an expert on any type of engine. I just bought my Camaro last November. I sold my 99 Civic Si that I put a supercharger on and was running 11 PSI on the stock engine without any problems because of taking the time to tune it. A friend of mine has a Drag III turbo on his Civic and I have helped him with that project also. I have owned more imports then I have American cars, but I keep coming back to American muscle because the tourqueless imports just don't satisfy my need for raw torque.

I will say that the Silvia is a very nice car and it is also known for being able to be made fast cheap. I wouldn't mind having one, either would half the import world in the states. So you choose your cars wisely, but what I am here writing about is your sh*tty attitude. You come on here talking all kinds of sh*t and your car is stock right now. People like you are one of the reasons I sold my Civic and got away from imports. For some reason a lot of import drivers feel they have to talk all kinds of sh*t about how fast their cars are. Why not just do the work and then let the car do the talking? That is what I did. My Civic looked stock, but everyone on base knew it was the fastest import on base and not to mess with it. I didn't have to say sh*t. To me that is a much better feeling then running around trying to tell everyone how fast I claim to be. Why do you feel you have to prove yourself with your mouth? You sound like your just another kid ricer when you act like that. It has been my experience that when people talk all that sh*t, they more than likely can't back it up (Hawk has been the only one to prove this theory wrong).

Now if you want to come on here and talk maturely about cars then welcome. If you want to come on here and talk sh*t that you can't back up right now then your just wasting your time. Just my 2 cents. Peace

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Yeah and get your own thread ya sons of bitches, I got 126 e-mail notifications sitting here when I got in on Monday. LOL.

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shytty attitude? me? naaah, you got me confused, I'm on here having some fun, I very well know how fast LT-1's, LS-1's and L98's are modded and stock. My "He said POOP" talking is all in fun, I've met bruce before, I like him and I like to talk shyt just like him. I'll be at Bitburg, I just want to baseline my car, I don't expect to wax anybody....yet. I'd be happy with a low 15, the argument started when someone said I had to dump all kinds of $$$ into my car to equal them, that was wrong, I proved that with my eclispe. Now your half right about tuning a turbo engine, yes, they respond very well to breathing mods...but, you are seriously wrong about bolting stuff on and going fast, you sound like the ricer....ummm...fuel pressure, ign. timing, boost pressure, fuel tuning, that's where you gain alot of power and maximize hp. You can't just keep turning up the boost, you reach fuel cut, maf overrun, runlean, ecu starts to pull timing, etc....you learn to tune around these setbacks until you can eliminate them. I had to turn the boost down on my eclispe to gain more top-end hp...why? because at high rpm's my turbo was pulling in more air than my MAF could read, so the ecu was pulling timing, and I had my base timing advanced already. I gave up some mid-range (the extra boost) in exchange for more top-end (full timing advance), which do you think yielded the the better hp curve? So you bolted a s/c on an Si @ 11psi, what kind of times did that get you? I've been in a drag II GSr integra @ 10psi (let's say I wasn't impressed), my friend here in schweinfurt has a civic si with a t3/t4 kit on it, it pulls pretty good @ 6psi....I don't know what you are talking about torqueless imports, have you ever ridden in a modded eclispe, 300zxtt, supra, or 3kGTVR-4? my eclispe was making 275lb.ft. torque at 3840rpm at the wheels with bad compression numbers on all cylinders on an engine that was bone stock with 170,000+ miles....no torque, huh? had enough to blaze the tires at 45mph in second gear, and also run low 13's high 12's with high 60ft. times, and no, it wasn't AWD, it was front wheel drive highway car. Just to let you know, I can talk all the shyt I want, cuz I've already proved my point, if you were at sembach(first race last year) you would have seen it for yourself...the LS-1 boyz declined to run me, guess they got nervous after I put an LT-1 under my belt rather easily:) ....so, don't get offended, I'm cool people, just having some fun, you comming to bitburg?

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I asked if you had any numbers for your car with the mods in your sig. 1/8, 1/4, or dyno #'s will do nicely...don't worry, I'm not gonna rip on you, just curious what that combo makes for power.
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Are you going to keep egging Bruce on until he admits your the $hit? Not going to happen bro. Just relax and come race your car. No need for anymore arguing. In other words, "How about a warm glass of shut the hell up?!"

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R4C. Do you think anyone actually cares about your Rissans or your Ecripse?


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R4C. Do you think anyone actually cares about your Rissans or your Ecripse?
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You are seriously deluded. He he. Not so much a fruitcake as a ricecake - light and insubstantial.


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Nope the only trailer my car has ever seen was on the way to Germany. If I cant drive it to the shows what the h*ll fun is that. That's way to many kill chances to be missed. It will be street driven untill winter. To much salt for me the 91 is getting a little age on her. So I will be looking for you when I get back. I am at Spangdahlem but we roll to K town all the time to play softball. I try to go to as many shows and OSL event's events as possible. I will see you around when I get back.

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shytty attitude? me? naaah, you got me confused, I'm on here having some fun, I very well know how fast LT-1's, LS-1's and L98's are modded and stock. My "He said POOP" talking is all in fun, I've met bruce before, I like him and I like to talk shyt just like him. I'll be at Bitburg, I just want to baseline my car, I don't expect to wax anybody....yet. I'd be happy with a low 15, the argument started when someone said I had to dump all kinds of $$$ into my car to equal them, that was wrong, I proved that with my eclispe. Now your half right about tuning a turbo engine, yes, they respond very well to breathing mods...but, you are seriously wrong about bolting stuff on and going fast, you sound like the ricer....ummm...fuel pressure, ign. timing, boost pressure, fuel tuning, that's where you gain alot of power and maximize hp. You can't just keep turning up the boost, you reach fuel cut, maf overrun, runlean, ecu starts to pull timing, etc....you learn to tune around these setbacks until you can eliminate them. I had to turn the boost down on my eclispe to gain more top-end hp...why? because at high rpm's my turbo was pulling in more air than my MAF could read, so the ecu was pulling timing, and I had my base timing advanced already. I gave up some mid-range (the extra boost) in exchange for more top-end (full timing advance), which do you think yielded the the better hp curve?


That is why I stated add bigger fuel injectors and tune the computer. I figured that would cover it for you, but I see I need to make sure I break every little thing done for you.

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So you bolted a s/c on an Si @ 11psi, what kind of times did that get you? I've been in a drag II GSr integra @ 10psi (let's say I wasn't impressed), my friend here in schweinfurt has a civic si with a t3/t4 kit on it, it pulls pretty good @ 6psi....


What kind of times did I get? Like I said it was the fastest import on base and I beat a mustang with heads and bolt ons. But as you said you weren't impressed with the GRS turbo and I wasn't impressed with my Civic Si SCed. I was actually very disappointed with it after all of the money I dumped into it. That is why I have a Camaro now.

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I don't know what you are talking about torqueless imports, have you ever ridden in a modded eclispe, 300zxtt, supra, or 3kGTVR-4? my eclispe was making 275lb.ft. torque at 3840rpm at the wheels with bad compression numbers on all cylinders on an engine that was bone stock with 170,000+ miles....no torque, huh? had enough to blaze the tires at 45mph in second gear, and also run low 13's high 12's with high 60ft. times, and no, it wasn't AWD, it was front wheel drive highway car.


Of course you could blaze the tires at 45mph....it is front wheel drive. Do you know what happens when you accelerate in a car? The weight transfers to the rear of the vehicle. That means you do not have as much wieght on the front tires anymore, which = wheel spin. That is why your 60 foot times sucked.

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Just to let you know, I can talk all the shyt I want, cuz I've already proved my point, if you were at sembach(first race last year) you would have seen it for yourself...the LS-1 boyz declined to run me, guess they got nervous after I put an LT-1 under my belt rather easily:) ....so, don't get offended, I'm cool people, just having some fun, you comming to bitburg?


Yeah I plan on being at Bitburg. I will be the drunk guy watching you all have fun (My cars have been shipped because I am PCSing). I guess you just rubbed me the wrong way when I read your post. I have read some of your other post and even though I still think you talk way to much sh*t (just like Bruce:) ), you seem to be interested in some serious talk. Later :) See you at Bitburg. Hey, are you stationed in K-town area? I saw 2 silvias down there last weekend. Peace

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Krazy, I'm glad you know both sides. I like the fact that you can question his knowledge and point out his idiocy better than me!! :D

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R4C I am ready to half track ya time now. 1/8 or 1/4 pick your poisen but it will be ugly and you better start moding fast the summer clocks ticking.


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damn!!! thought this post was dead, hehehe....glad to see you guyz/girlz having fun still. Like I said, I'll be at Bitburg, bone stock, I just want to baseline the car, I'm not caving anyone's doors in yet:) ....like I said, next year. And you mr. red camaro, who you calling an idiot?!?!...homie didn't point out jack, you can't tune your own computer, that's why I didn't mention it, but you can adjust ign. timing, fuel pressure, boost, and your attitude;) ....like I said, I've proven my point once, ....hmmmmm...you don't hear anyone arguing that point with me who was at sembach do you? you ever stop to think why? you don't care do you?....that's a fatal mistake made by many, they usually end up in my rearview mirror;)....enjoy, see yall at bitburg, I'll be the black guy with the slow white nissan:)

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That guy you are bragging about was pretty slow I think Gary beat him? So are you ready for a skull draging full 1/4 mile. I will be baselining mine also made a couple adjustments.


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Bruce your all right in my book. You are without a doubt the biggest shi# talker on the board who can back up his words. :)


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