F-Body Europe

Sven,

I too have been through several rough relationships in the last few years...been engaged four times, but only got married about three weeks ago. Dec 11th!!! I ended up finding someone I had considered to be a true friend and something magical happened. She knew that noone could ever treat her better than I, and I know that I found a jewel in her. (she is beautiful, sexy, and 18!!!!)

It took me a long time and I wanted to have the total family life thing happening. I am now 33 and ended up with a daughter unexpectedly because I tried to force a situation and was also very depressed about my life in general.

My career is going amazingly well. I am in the most prestigious assignment I could get in my specialty. I have fulfilled many many of my professional goals.

I am now here in Belgium...my wife is in the states, as is my daughter. Wife will come here in May or June, and I dont know when I will see my daughter again. So, I got to spend my christmas and new years living in a hotel in Belgium without any of my family. I also get to miss my daughters first birthday on Jan 10th.

And worst of it all-I am fulfilling another dream of having my Trans Am rebuilt and hot rodded and its not finished before I had to move here...and its NOT COMING HERE!!!!



OK, I guess I am done rambling about nothing that anyone cares about.

Patrick

Pass me a razor blade.

men.

it was a man taught me driving as a bat out of hell.

it was a man made me grap a gun in the middle of the night.

it was a man almost forced me to kill him with a butchers knife.

it was a man made me run for my naked skin.

it was a man taught me how to play with other men.

it was a man shot at me downtown in bright daylight.

it was a man almost beat me to dead.

it was a man promising me all jewelry in the world.

it was a man almost broke my neck.

men.

I love them.


(ok, I took the worse ones out)

I guess I'm lucky then, my girlfriend damn near beat love into me and now she's my wife. I just woke up with a gold band, a hang over, and a baby due in Febuary. And all this with out me having to make any decisions. Funny how sweet and wonderful women can be!

thanks. finally something positiv.
them men almost got me depressed.

I may have rambled on about a lot of things in my last post...but the important things I was trying to say were:

1. Anyone my age should have the opportunity to marry someone beautiful, sexy, and 18!!!!

2. I got to rebuild my Trans Am the way I wanted to. (just sucks that I dont get to drive it yet)

3. Ok, so theres not a three, but I filled up a lot of space.

I think those things are fairly positive. Maybe it came across differently though. If so, then I apologize profusely....

Patrick

I wish you are still as happy when she is 28 and you are 43...

Hey, it was me who started all this relationship stuff, so i ought to give my 0.02 --> Life can be cruel, but it always goes on.

Oh, women can hurt you, but men are no better. So best to stay single.

Only somehow i never manage .....

DaRam

I married my ex-wife when I was 24 and she was 24.
We split when we were 32 - too different after 8 years.

I was with a girl who was beautiful, sexy and 16 until she was 21 but although we have a beautiful 3 year old daughter, we were never really meant to be together.

I'm now with a beautiful, sexy 23 year old and we're probably the perfect match. She'd like a Camaro too but the practicalities of running it mean she probably won't get one though we looked at a 3.8. We'll probably have to trade her Astra for something a bit more interesting instead.
So it all works out in the end no matter how complicated a route it takes to get there.

hm... this was not really a relationship problem related thread in the beginning. (Ram)
But ist does not matter.
This thread is good to just talk stuff of our mind, no matter what
bothers us...

Now... where is my perfect 18 year old match?

oh squirrel thing, tz tz tz.

You're right, Squizz, it's not a relationship thread.

So you've got a giant pig with the normal attributes of a normal pig and he's going on the rampage through a major city, vainly looking for giant acorns and oblivious to the damage he is causing. Do you think a giant pterodactyl would be able to stop it?

And do you think it possible to make a single strand of spaghetti that would go round the moon in a zero gravity scenario.

...about the giant pig: I would be the runaway!

meanwhile it is destructing it's environment I would be on the spagetti beach (moon) exil... enjoying the bath in the tomatoesauce.

Nothing really to write about just thought I would fill up more space with meaningless drivel.

Been sitting here in my hotel watching movies...I watched National Lampoons Van Wilder for the first time. Never seen that before....quite funny...yet totally meaningless. But if it had any meaning then it would not likely be National Lampoon right??

Any of you people movie buffs??

Patrick

before I say anything Squirrelina-
It was not the man- YOU ALLOWED THE MAN to put you in those situations.
I can see if the man never knew you. That I can understand.

But if that man knew you- ( if)

you allowed that man into your life for one reason or the other and the warning signs where there wether you liked or not- wether you saw them or not.

Those men were stupid and terrible from the very beginning. But for some reason you wilfully overlooked it and they got to know you.

ALL THE TIME I Hear about women saying how bad men were.

I HAVE TOLD WOMEN MANY TIMES WHO were getting into relationships with guys that they are making the wrong decision

and they did not listen to me.

NOW THEY WISH THEY DID. You are right about men. that's why I don't socialize with any.

BUT WOMEN ARE EVEN more wrong because they allow themselves to be put in that situation, for one reason or another

So all that stuff you said comes back on you. ( if they knew you)

I'm sorry squirrellina. but it is the truth, because it's part of what I have to deal with as a military policeman for over 14 years.

It looks like you may be attracted to the worst guys. Much more common than you think. If that's the case you may be beyond all hope.

(I am using psychology to help you think)

I know you may be upset by this, Squirrelina but I am telling you this because I do care about you.

If they never knew you and did that or try to rape you I understand-

but it takes " two to tango"

You "opened the gates" to let them in to your life. They were that way before they knew you. But you may have been too young, blind or stubborn, or ignorant to really see through them and what (fake)outward appearances they may have.

If that was the case squirrelina, please think about it.

I sincerely apologize if this pisses you off, but it's a fact.

I hear you gray TA. My life is going very well. In fact, excellent. My career too is going excellent. Everything is wonderful-

--without women.

I must thank God because If it wasn't for God's hand, I would be dead right know.

Just a thought...we are all our own masters of our own situations. We either create them or allow them to happen.

You can either choose to be a victim or take charge of that situation.

In Svens case he chooses to live without women for right now. Maybe that will remain the same for the rest of his life, but maybe at some point he will choose to change that. But it will be HIS choice.

Right now someone else can choose to be a victim and blame someone else for your decisions (Sven you are right about that) or you can make your own grown up decisions and change your habits consciously to eliminate those threats to your happiness.

Often it is difficult to know how to change our situations until you really take a good hard close look at it, or someone points it out to you in such a way that its hard to miss. Maybe we all should look at certain points in our lives and see this.

People hurt us because we allow them to hurt us. Sometimes when I have said that I get stupid looks, but the fact is that unless I let someone into my life and therefore EMPOWER them to hurt me they cannot hurt me. Then other times if people didnt act the way that I thought they should then I have gotten hurt. Example: any of the other times I have been engaged. I expected a certain amount of loyalty and trust from those people and they didnt behave in ways that I expected...and I got hurt.

Trusting people after being hurt is a very difficult thing, but not impossible. You have to be willing to take risks, but the chance of the rewards are awesome!!! Even now my wife has a serious grudge against men in general (I have to remind her that there are stupid women in the world too). but obviously she trusts me enough to allow me to be unaccompanied in Europe right now. I could very easily deny her existence and be getting laid every day if I wanted to and put my mind to it. But that would be violating her trust and her expectations of me. I will not violate that, and I expect the same from her back in the states. IF she were to choose to violate that trust then it would be my own fault for opening up and trusting her to allow her close enough to my heart to hurt me.

Hope this bit of rambling makes some sense to someone out there. I also hope that maybe someone who understands it will maybe take something positive from it.

These are things that I have learned through years of experience and lots of counseling. Consider them free from me!!!!

Patrick

I hear you GRAY T/A. I hear you well.

GRAY T/A and Sven "relationships 101" like the gray man said, " that one was free."

And like I have told rampage also, turn and rechannel the negatives into positives. Nobody is putting anyone down here.

Ok, so what happened?? Did I stop the entire thread???

Come on, this was getting fun!!! I was starting to enjoy getting all philosophical and that sort of thing.

Lets keep this thread going on at least something....I tried to change it a few posts ago and see if anyone would at least pick up on that topic, but noone did.

I think it would be fun to keep this going and see how far we can take this thread...whats the maximum capacity of a thread anyway??

Anyone??

Patrick

GRAY T/A you would have to ask Garry on that one. He has also posted a thread called "just some stats" I believe.

If you have read all the pages on this thread you would see that this have been a little philisophical.

I am very busy, and during the weekend I am playing catch up (sometimes). Things are not going to change but I am a workaholic anyway. I can take a day off if I need to. So sometimes I will not be around, especially if I have to go to another country for a while.