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Hawk
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Post subject: Blown engine Da Hawk is dead!!!  Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 7:22 pm |
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My car stalled this afternoon about 1700 check all fuses they are good. I pulled a valve cover and had my wife crank it over and the valves did not open and close like there supposed to? I think I broke something but I did not hear metal on metal .Guessing its a timing chain right now but that was a JWIS with Cloyes gears last year.
Last edited by Hawk on Sat Mar 15, 2003 10:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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SRZ
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 7:53 pm |
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Sorry about the bad news. Hope it's nothing major. Just out of the blue this happened?
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 8:09 pm |
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Tough break  (no pun intended) I hope you get it on the road soon this is the worst time to be breaking "He said POOP". I still got to run you so dont stay down too long.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 10:23 pm |
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Hawk, sorry to hear that you are broke again. Hope it isn't anything too bad. Good Luck.
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Garry
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 5:24 am |
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Crossing my fingers it's not too bad ... hope you get it fixed soon!!! Want to see you run at the track in May!!!
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ChrisV6
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 12:06 pm |
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Outch. Not good.
Hope it´s nothing serious.
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Hawk
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 12:21 pm |
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It is the timing chain it looks new except one link. I got all the pieces out I an just worried about the valves some stayed open during this event I am hoping they did not hit a piston.
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Roy
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 1:45 pm |
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Bruce
I admire your optimism there . But when you extend a ventil over a half a inch with shaved heads. The question is how many hit . Ifeel for you man.
Safe bet is too pull your pushrods and roll em across a pane of glass and a compression check prior to running the engine wouldn't be a bad thing either . If the compression checks out okay from cyl to cyl, then you probably got away with a light kiss.
Don't know what I can do to help but let me know If you might need something. I do have a few spare top end parts.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 7:38 pm |
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Holly shnikeys. That sucks. Hope it's not too bad. So what's the plan? Your opel buddy gonna fix it?
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My96z
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 9:00 pm |
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Damn. You might have enough clearance seeing how I remember you changing valve springs. I think you had dropped one in their before and was able to barely get it out when the piston was at TDC?
But to be safe. I agree with Roy.
Good luck.
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Hawk
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 10:16 pm |
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Well it is junk as is now I must figure out wat is salvageable. No bent push rods (installed chrome moly 1000 miles ago) but 8-10 bent valves so far. I am now hoping for no cracked /destroyed pistons. Damage is now into the $$$$'s at least. A cam to stop spinning @ 5000-6000 is bad news. I will be sending the chain/valves back for a autopsy. It will be down for a while without a doubt. I think I'm on my own on this one to far out to be covered.
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Jr
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 1:02 am |
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Hawk,
Sorry to hear about the ride.... hope you get it fixed soon! Good Luck!!
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ChrisV6
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 3:09 am |
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Really bad news, i´m sorry to hear that 
And right at the season start...
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Roy
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 7:16 am |
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SRZ
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 9:25 am |
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Man that sucks! I feel for you big time. But don't you still have your old block at Tony's still or did you chuck it? I remember seeing it on several occasions down there. Slap that thing in and roll out! Man........
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Hawk
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 3:36 pm |
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7 bent valves, broken timing chain. No head damage other than valves pistons not damaged, Valve sprinngs are good. Cause was timing chain no doubt. Yes the old engine is at Tony's but I am sure this one is better.
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Roy
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 4:44 pm |
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Well I bet that is a relief . Can the pistons be notched any for deeper valve reliefs. I know this won't keep valves from completely touching the piston . But a soft kiss would be better than a French in this case.
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Garry
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 5:56 pm |
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well, sounds halfway bearable .. could have been worse ... have you already ordered replacement parts? 
Hope to still see you running in Bitburg in about 7 weeks or so ...
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"Speed doesn't kill - suddenly becoming stationary on the other hand ..."
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SSZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 7:46 pm |
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SS396
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:01 am |
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Man Hawk, sorry to hear about the engine.
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