F-Body Europe

Mostly because what I want to learn about...noone knows about in the U.S.

My desire is to find the perfect combination for spirited driving @ speeds between 100 & 160mph+.

Yank's own FAQ talks about Torque Converters and how high of a stall you want. Methinks that for my style of driving...not just drag strip and occasional street driving is not what Yank is recommending.

They're recommending a 3500stall. I'm thinking more along the lines of 2800.

More people are satisfied with the GTO's 3.42 gear ratio...I'm thinking of lowering it to 3.08's.

People pay $k's on slotted / cross drilled Baer brake kits...when Baer themselves will tell you that the best rotor today for track use is not drilled or slotted.

I'm trying to figure out what my build will be...when I do it...it's going to be an all at once deal...all or nothing drill. Supercharger? Probably. Everything else? I have no 'effn clue.

Does indeed sound like a delemia (sp?)

I'm sure either Sam Strano or Lou Gigliani knows what you want to know.

Go with a TCI Super Street fighter 3000. I have the SSF 3500 and I love it. You can't even tell my car has a stall in it on the autobahn. You have to love lock-up converters.

Who are these guys? Sorry for the ignorance.

http://www.stranoparts.com and http://www.lgmotorsports.com

Ben

They both know about everything there is to know about road racing!

But Iwouldn't call what Sygoat wants to do road racing . That is more of just Autobahn cruising .

Sygoat with that in mind , any extended driving at WOT doing those speeds, your Automatic will take a hydraulic dump. Try to think the biggest tranny cooler you can mount in the car with a tranny guage.

You're right Roy, but they would probably set it up the same way, or?

3.07 gears are available on other models of the Holden Monaro. I've got an order in with an Aussie company to pick me up some.

If the Gearing is dropped...theoretically wouldn't that decrease heat if by marginally?

I'll look into tranny coolers. Got it. The 4L60e/4L60/700R4 is a notoriously weak tranny. Marginally better in RWD applications where not as much heat is being generated compared to AWD applications.

Found out that C5 brake pads (significantly larger) fit onto stock GTO calipers and braking is significantly better. This will be a stop gap till Baer time.

Heads: AFR Mongoose 205

Cam?

Superchargers come in 3 forms: ATI / Vortech & Magnusson. Vortech is the most efficient but the ugliest and most noticable in an engine bay. Magnusson is the best looking and easiest install but worst performer. In the middle is the ATI.

http://www.tbyrnemotorsports.com/GTO/index2.html

Stall will be a modest 2800.

Ride height will come down 2"

Lower numerical ratio willnot help on the heat build up in the tranny. Fbodies and Ybodies are able to get 2.73 ratios and they still eat their trannies if the temp gets to high at WOT For durations over 5 minutes . Or do two nine minute laps at the Nring back to back.

Don't get me wrong stock Autos are good for normal commuting or that 1/4 mile, burn but for any serious hot laps or abahn hauling, it has a lot to be desired . If you watch the tranny temp it will give you flawless performance. Over heat it just once and it will fail somewhere down the road.

Well I've been waiting for a few products to come out and become available.

So I'm finally going to move on a few things to increase performance.

I'm following a build that increased RWHP in another GTO from 280 to 380.

Basics:

Exhaust
Intake
Maf
Cam
Tune

In my case I'm going to go a bit more aggressive than the other GTO. This should be accomplished in two phases ending by March.

Phase 1) Intake / Exhaust (Mufflers & Headers) Intake from LPE, Headers from Dynotech and Exhaust from SLP.

Phase 2) Tune, Maf and Cam. Tune will be in the form of a Westers Custom Tune. Costs $795 but ulimiting tuning and no downtime with post core return for $45/pop and is transferable to your next car. Cam I'm unsure of. Specs from the other GTO are:

comp 224/228 .581/.588 113 cam

Though after talking to Val I'm really interested in his cam. He loves his cam for the Autobahn. What are the specs on his cam?

I'm going to make a move on the first purchase here in the next few weeks. 3 weeks of TDY to FT Belvior should make for a nice bonus to the GTO modding fund.

That 224/228 R grind cam is on point just ask Don he bought it from me. Very streetable with a good strong lope. Do youself a favor and go with the Patriot gold dual springs. I was playing spring crusher with that same cam within 5000 miles. Don ran it with a auto w 2:73 gears LT and a computer program no heads and ran 11.90 My opinnion only the TR 224 is all around good cam but leaves a bunch on the table say 10 hapees.
I am currently running a TSP V1 Magic stick 237/242 on a 112 idles a bit rougher sounds mean with tune idle set @ 950 but the brakes do not work very good when it first starts up. the comp had more a bunch power down low and thie MS shines above 4000.

my opinion only. Save your intake money the LPE will not be worth the cost over the LS6 one that you have. what Big cube high HP guys are doing is the LSX with a 90mm but cost about $1400 for 10 hapees. I agree with roy put the bigest tranny cooler you can find on it and when you get the computer flashed firm up the shifts reducing heat. Don was running a 3000 stall on the autobahn with a cooler however he could not hang to long above 150MPH

Well truth be known...I have 1 week TDY to Vilseck in the 2d week of March. I'd like to have a good cam by then and have you and Firechicken help me install it.

I'm not a complete idiot to cars...but a cam is about 2 points out of ten above me league.

Here we are speaking different languages.

Understand about the computer programming. The GTO is notorious for torque management...much more so than the auto F-body programming.

Got recommendations for a tranny cooler kit?

Look me up when you get here. We could change the cam & valve springs in 10 hrs.

Actually we did Don's in one night after work but it was about all night. I call Driver side. Cam change is straight foward and easier than you think. springs take the time. thunderracing had some tranny coolers does not have to be veh specific. take your time and read up on your choice the TR 224 may be your ticket but is way to small for me. I would like the TREX if the LSA was not so tight the TREX in your goat would be a turd without a steep numercally higher gear. my current cam needs RPM's with steep gears to run quick. Another point in cam selection is ramp rates steeper lobes = more power, more noise(Valvetrain) reccomend a double spring but had no problems with CC 918 My opinion only.
LT w high flow cats possibly cat back do not know what the GTO has
CAM know what you want with good Dual springs
compoter Tune
tran cooler
http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog/?a ... 3&pcid=175
thermostat
underdrive pullies
good air filter

Well seeing as how it was going to be a week...I can stand to rent for 5 days....no need to do it in one night.

Oh and everyone here ...take note...he called drivers side on the GTO...a car originally designed with the right driver in mind. He called driver's side on a car that was a right driver for three years.

Get your cam and springs and we will get it in. Did it 5 times so far had to pull heads only once when the chain broke.