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Hawk
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Post subject: Hawks new motor Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:36 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2001 4:25 pm Posts: 4288 Location: Vilseck
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I found a stock block and stuffing stock pistons in it with upgraded rod bolts. Heads trying to work clean them up valve look good chambers #1 needs to be cleaned up I am trying to save them but may have to run stock. I Plan to put the big cam in it so at least it sounds good.
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Squirrelina
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:53 am |
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Joined: Sat Apr 13, 2002 2:00 am Posts: 2530 Location: Höheischweiler, SüdWestPfalz
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sounds like a plan... "at least it sounds good" 
_________________ Silke
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KC10A
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:26 am |
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Joined: Mon Apr 08, 2002 9:07 pm Posts: 841 Location: Ramstein AB, Germany
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Sounds like a plan. Hope it works out. Are you putting the laughing gas in it again? Hope you can get it done in time for Bitburg.
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KC10A
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:57 am |
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Joined: Mon Apr 08, 2002 9:07 pm Posts: 841 Location: Ramstein AB, Germany
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So, is the Hawk up and running yet??? Sure hope so. How much power did you lose? Inquiring minds want to know.
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HotRod
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:36 pm |
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Joined: Wed Apr 24, 2002 8:03 pm Posts: 692 Location: Erdorf, Germany
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I want to know also. Hope that ever thing is alright.
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Hawk
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2001 4:25 pm Posts: 4288 Location: Vilseck
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new motor is in, not running yet 2 more hrs of work and it will be running. I really do not know about the power until she fires and drives still waiting on a tune.
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Daddy
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:56 pm |
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Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:59 pm Posts: 2334 Location: Little Rock Arkansas
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_________________ I wake up in the morning and piss excellence!

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Hawk
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:04 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2001 4:25 pm Posts: 4288 Location: Vilseck
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LOL craft shop is closed right now or I would have finished it.
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JackZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:26 pm |
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Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 6:03 pm Posts: 8686 Location: Houston, TX
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SPILL THE BEANS ALREADY!!! 
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HotRod
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:57 pm |
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Joined: Wed Apr 24, 2002 8:03 pm Posts: 692 Location: Erdorf, Germany
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You know what, to many people have been viewing this post and not responding. 111 viewed and 8 posted.
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Daddy
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:58 pm |
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Joined: Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:59 pm Posts: 2334 Location: Little Rock Arkansas
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I posted. What else do you want?
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Firechicken
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:06 am |
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Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2002 7:17 pm Posts: 1201 Location: Winder, GA
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OK, I'll post....... Bruce your not telling the whole story.... I know you got something up his sleeve  You just don't run 10's on a stock motor with a cam......the whole story will come out at Bitburg. Come on tell us the rael deal....inquiring minds want to know 
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HotRod
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:43 am |
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Joined: Wed Apr 24, 2002 8:03 pm Posts: 692 Location: Erdorf, Germany
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That is what I said from the begining. He is planning some thing. I don't think that he blew a motor. You are right Firechicken, you don't run 10's on a stock bottom half. Especially running N2O. It's going to granade.
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NXZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:52 am |
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Joined: Wed May 05, 2004 7:13 am Posts: 706 Location: Vilseck
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I helped him put in his used motor. The old motor with the long rods and forged pistons is toast. It burned the #2 piston all the way to the rings and then it melted into the sleeve. All cylinders were scratched really bad due to the rich condition of the motor. I will tell you that the short block is bone stock. No tricks! Now he did put his cam in it and his heads. He is waiting on his computer tune from TSP. This motor is a one time shot at 10s. Hit the button and hope for the best. If everything works correctly it will stay together. There are some LS1s in the states running 9s on stock bottom ends. See LS1tech.com for more info.
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HotRod
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:05 am |
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Joined: Wed Apr 24, 2002 8:03 pm Posts: 692 Location: Erdorf, Germany
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NXZ28 wrote: I helped him put in his used motor. The old motor with the long rods and forged pistons is toast. It burned the #2 piston all the way to the rings and then it melted into the sleeve. All cylinders were scratched really bad due to the rich condition of the motor. I will tell you that the short block is bone stock. No tricks! Now he did put his cam in it and his heads. He is waiting on his computer tune from TSP. This motor is a one time shot at 10s. Hit the button and hope for the best. If everything works correctly it will stay together. There are some LS1s in the states running 9s on stock bottom ends. See LS1tech.com for more info.
OK, LOOP HOLES DUDE. At the begining of this post Bruce stated that #1 piston was gone not #2. Now all the cylinders are toasted due to rich condition? Running N2O you need a rich condition in order not to damage the motor. CAN I THROW UP THE BSHIT FLAG NOW! I will give you that they are running in the 9's in the states on stock bottom ends. Just hard to believe that he will be running in the 10's over here up hill. You figure 400hp on the stock motor and a 200hp shot of the happy stuff. 600hp and that will but him at 11.8 or a little better. I'm not from Missouri but you have to show me.
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JackZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:12 am |
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Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 6:03 pm Posts: 8686 Location: Houston, TX
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Quote: I'm not from Missouri but you have to show me.

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NXZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:19 am |
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Joined: Wed May 05, 2004 7:13 am Posts: 706 Location: Vilseck
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HotRod wrote: NXZ28 wrote: I helped him put in his used motor. The old motor with the long rods and forged pistons is toast. It burned the #2 piston all the way to the rings and then it melted into the sleeve. All cylinders were scratched really bad due to the rich condition of the motor. I will tell you that the short block is bone stock. No tricks! Now he did put his cam in it and his heads. He is waiting on his computer tune from TSP. This motor is a one time shot at 10s. Hit the button and hope for the best. If everything works correctly it will stay together. There are some LS1s in the states running 9s on stock bottom ends. See LS1tech.com for more info. OK, LOOP HOLES DUDE. At the begining of this post Bruce stated that #1 piston was gone not #2. Now all the cylinders are toasted due to rich condition? Running N2O you need a rich condition in order not to damage the motor. CAN I THROW UP THE BSHIT FLAG NOW! I will give you that they are running in the 9's in the states on stock bottom ends. Just hard to believe that he will be running in the 10's over here up hill. You figure 400hp on the stock motor and a 200hp shot of the happy stuff. 600hp and that will but him at 11.8 or a little better. I'm not from Missouri but you have to show me.
First off, Bruce is an MP and he gets confused from time to time.  It is the passenger side front piston, which on an LS1 is the #2. I looked at it with my own eyes. Second, nitrous does like fuel. I know this. The only catch to Bruce's car was that it was running extremely rich all the time. The excessive fuel washed the rings clean of oil and caused the cylinder scarring. Finally, with his heads, cam, and computer tune on this motor, it should put it in the ballpark of around 460-490 flywheel horsepower. We are just trying to be optimistic about the timeslip. It could just come apart in the burnout box. With all the work we just put into this car, all we have is optimism.  BTW HotRod, did you get your gremlins worked out of your car? I have a few videos of it and it was really strong in the 1/8th.
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HotRod
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:30 am |
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Joined: Wed Apr 24, 2002 8:03 pm Posts: 692 Location: Erdorf, Germany
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Just trying to ruffel your feathers a bit. I hope that all is well with bruce and that it will hold together. If it does come appart I have room to keep it here if that is what he wants. Let's just hope that it doesn't come to that. I am affraid about the same thing. I am running rich also. I did do some work on it this weekend and found a vacuum leak before he throttle body. I pulled some plugs and they looked funny. Outer ring(where the threads are) is black and the rest is white. They didn't look like they were damaged. With the vacuum leak fixed it seamed to run a little less rich. I think that there is another leak some where. So the 1/8th mile looked strong. Good, just have to figure out the upper half and I will be in the 12's. Are you coming down for the Oct races?
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JackZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:07 am |
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Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 6:03 pm Posts: 8686 Location: Houston, TX
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He is a lifetime preferred member of ADAC Plus, so they will tow it all the way home for him!!! 
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NXZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:25 am |
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Joined: Wed May 05, 2004 7:13 am Posts: 706 Location: Vilseck
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HotRod wrote: Are you coming down for the Oct races?
But of course I will be there unless Uncle Sam or my car have other ideas. I have a few more bolt ons that should push the NX to the 11s. BTW, you didn't ruffle my feathers. Bruce and I were just trying to have a little fun with the Mustang crowd. I hope you get your rich condition figured out. Does it have an adjustable fuel pressure regulator? If so, what pressure are you running with the vacuum line off the regulator?
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