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 Post subject: RPMs not below 1300/min
PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2002 1:03 pm 
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I experienced a strange behavior of my Camaro:

When the car is moving and I press the clutch, the rpms won't fall below 1300. Never. They sometimes even stay higher, at about 1600. However, when I come to a complete stop they quickly fall down to 750-900 (my normal idle rpms).

Is this normal? I don't like it in a way...

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Ben did it just start doing it or does it do it intermittently?

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It does it all the time. It started wednesday after the dealer fixed the A/C. Before the rpms would drop down to 1000 when rolling and 750-900 on a stop. Now they don't go below 1300...?!

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Have you done the test with the A?C on and then do it whe n it is off. Is there a difference?

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No difference with A/C on or off. It won't drop below 1300 rpm until I come to a complete stop. :-dunno:

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I'm clueless
I was thinking IAC Motor though.

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I have had this problem. It cleared it's self up though.

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Check that stinking PVC valve it could be stuck open. It is too the left of the TB and runs into the intake.


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 Post subject: Not funny
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Change that nickname or begone.

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Alright
Administrators, moderators do what you have been charged to do and delete offensive, politically ,racially or insensitive user names or content.

Dude your in the air force and should know better.

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What ever happened to a little slack? I don't think that he is trying to offend anyone. Give him a chance to come and change it, before you bounce him. He is just trying to do a word play on the SS he has. I don't think he has come back to check the board, and he won't if you ban him. Just give the guy a chance.

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Don't get offended by the nickname. It's just a name. It has no affiliation or reference to raqcist ...holes. It was a the name given to my car because it's and SS - and the Nazi's had thier secret powerful police called the SS. Hence the power of the car - it just went together.
If it does offend poeple, tell me hos wot change it and I will.


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 Post subject: A little history lesson for the uninformed
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Don't get offended by the nickname. It's just a name. It has no affiliation or reference to raqcist ...holes. It was a the name given to my car because it's and SS - and the Nazi's had thier secret powerful police called the SS. Hence the power of the car - it just went together.
If it does offend poeple, tell me hos wot change it and I will.


Orange you are a little mixed up on your history . Let me set you straight, The secret police were called the Gestappo.


The SS (Schutzstaffel)
was the very essence of Nazism -- the elite group of the Party, composed of the most thorough-going adherents of the Nazi cause, pledged to blind devotion to Nazi principles, and prepared to carry them out without any question and at any cost, including the deportation and Germanization of inhabitants of conquered territories, enslavement of foreign labor and illegal use of prisoners of war, concentration camps for the extermination of the Jews and and planning and waging aggressive war.

The sweeping National Socialist program and the measures they were prepared to use and did use, could be fully accomplished neither through the machinery of the government nor of the Party. Things had to be done for which no agency of government and no political party even the Nazi Party, would openly take full responsibility. A specialized type of-apparatus was needed - - an apparatus which was to some extent connected with the government and given official support, but which, at the same time, could maintain a quasi-independent status so that all its acts could be attributed neither to the government nor to the Party as a whole. The was that apparatus.

It involved, of course, the performance of police functions. But it involved more. It required participation in the suppression and extermination of all internal opponents of the regime. It meant participation in extending the regime beyond the borders of Germany, and eventually, participation in every type of activity designed to secure a hold over those territories and populations which, through military conquest, had come under German domination.

Heinrich Himmler, the Reichsfuehrer , commanded the entire organization. The increasingly close collaboration of the Security Service of the Reichsfuehrer [almost always referred to as the SD] with the Gestapo and Criminal Police (Kripo) eventually resulted in the creation of the Reich Main Security Office (or RSHA). The SD originated as a part of the and always retained its character as a party organization, as distinguished from the GESTAPO, which was a State organization. However, the GESTAPO and the SD were brought into close working relationship, the SD serving primarily as the information-gathering agency and the GESTAPO as the executive agency of the police system established by the Nazis for the purpose of combatting the political and ideological enemies of the Nazi regime.

The Waffen , the combat arm of the , was created, trained, and finally utilized for the purposes of aggressive war. Although tactically under the command of the Wehrmacht while in the field, it remained as much a part of the as any other branch of that organization. The mission of the Death Head Units ( Totenkopf Verbaende) was guarding enemies of the State who were held in concentration camps. The eventually succeeded in assuming control over the entire Reich Police, out of which special militarized forces were formed, originally Police Battalions, and later expanded to Police Regiments. The Allgemeine (General) was composed of all members of the who did not belong to any of the special branches.

The GESTAPO was the political police force of the Reich. Much of its personnel consisted of transferees from former political police forces of the States. Membership in the GESTAPO was voluntary, and it had a membership of about 40,000 or 50,000 in 1943-45. The GESTAPO was founded in April 1933 by Goering to serve as a political police force in Prussia. Himmler was named Deputy Chief of the GESTAPO in Prussia in 1934. The GESTAPO, through its great power of arrest and confinement to concentration camps without recourse to law, was the principal means for eliminating enemies of the Nazi regime.


The headquarters organization of the GESTAPO (Amt IV of the RSHA) was set up on a functional basis. In 1943 it contained five sub-sections. Section A dealt with opponents, sabotage, and protective service. Section B dealt with political churches, sects and Jews, and was subdivided into four offices, including B4, which was responsible for Jewish affairs, matters of evacuation, means of suppressing enemies of the people and State, dispossession of rights of German citizenship. (Eichmann was head of this office). Section C dealt with card files, protective custody, and matters of press and Party. Section D dealt with regions under greater German influence. Section E dealt with security. Section F dealt with passport matters and alien police.
Subordinate offices of the GESTAPO were established throughout the Reich and designated as Staats Polizeileitstellen or Staats Polizeistellen, depending upon the size of the office. These offices reported directly to the RSHA in Berlin but were subject to the supervision of Inspekteurs of the Security Police in the various provinces. In the occupied territories the regional offices of the GESTAPO were coordinated with the Criminal Police and the SD under Kommandeurs of the Security Police and SD.

The GESTAPO was one of the primary agencies for the persecution of the Jews. The persecution of the Jews under the Nazi regime is a story of increasingly severe treatment, beginning with restrictions, then seizure and spoliation of property, commitment to concentration camps, deportation, slave labor, and finally mass murder. The GESTAPO carried out mass murders of hundreds of thousands of civilians of occupied countries as a part of the Nazi program to exterminate political and racial undesirables ("Einsatz Groups"):

"The head of the Jewish section in the GESTAPO, and the man directly responsible for carrying out the mass extermination program against the Jews by the GESTAPO, Obersturmbannfuehrer Eichmann, estimated in his report to Himmler on the matter, that 2,000,000 Jews had been killed by shootings, mainly by the Einsatz Groups of the SIPO and SD during the campaign in the East. This did not include the estimated 4,000,000 sent by the GESTAPO for extermination in annihilation camps." [page 282]

During 1943 the program of mass murder carried out by the Einsatz Groups in the East was modified, and orders were issued to round up hundreds of thousands of persons for the armament industry.
The great power of the GESTAPO was "Schutzhaft" -- the power to imprison people without judicial proceedings on the theory of "protective custody." This power was based upon the law of 28 February 1933 which suspended the clauses of the Weimar Constitution guaranteeing civil liberties to the German people. The actions and orders of the GESTAPO were not subject to judicial review. Under the law of 30 November 1933 the only redress available was by appeal to the next higher authority within the GESTAPO itself.

The first concentration camps were established in 1933 at Dachau in Bavaria and at Oranienburg in Prussia. The GESTAPO was given by law the responsibility of administering the concentration camps. The reason assigned for the arrest and commitment of persons to concentration camps usually was that, according to the GESTAPO, the person endangered by his attitude the existence and security of the people and the State. Further specifications of grounds included such offenses as that of "working against the Greater German Reich with an illegal resistance organization," "being a Jew," "suspected of working for the detriment of the Reich," "being strongly suspected of aiding desertion," "because as a relative of a deserter he is expected to take advantage of every occasion to harm the German Reich," "refusal to work," "sexual intercourse with a Pole," "religious propaganda," "working against the Reich," "loafing on the job," or "defeatist statements." The most casual remark of a German citizen might bring him before the GESTAPO, where his fate and freedom were decided without recourse to law. In this government, in which the rule of law was replaced by a tyrannical rule of men, the GESTAPO was the primary instrumentality of oppression.

In the end Orange, It would be best that you drop the Nazi piece from your board name for this particular board and study a little history . It keeps the egg on the face to a mininum. Besides this is afterall a predominant German/American Board that is open to all Fbody people of Europe.

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I think he got the idea with the first couple of complaints, Roy. No need to belittle him. Lay off.

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I think he got the idea with the first couple of complaints, Roy. No need to belittle him. Lay off.

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Does it matter?

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 Post subject: Sir Roy................
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Roy,

You summed it up in the first part of your history lesson - the elite.
This is what the Camaro SS is to the Camaro, the elite.
The word ¡§NaziSS¡¨ is not meant to signify what happened 50+ years ago. It was meant, jokingly by a friend, to signify the power my Orange Camaro SS has.

Anyway, thanks for the history lesson. Although, you didn't belittle me, anyone can cut and paste all that great information, you probably found from a search engine anyway, into a chat forum. Do you feel proud knowing the fact that you know how to click a mouse a few times to find what you need in search engines? Do you think people think you wrote that? And I stand corrected if you indeed wrote it. If you did ¡§I say Bravo to you sir¡¨. You are a great historian. To say the least you did amuse me though.

As I said before, I am not for the Nazi¡¦s or any other racist, fascist crazed lunatic lot of people. It was just a name give to my car by other European nationals.
GET OVER IT !!!!
You have no idea who I am. I am very patriotic person and love my European brothers and sisters, or would not have lived in Europe for almost 6 years now.
I replied, before your great lesson, I would change the name if offended people!!!
Not a problem for me.
You are the one who sounds arrogant with your long history lesson, hiding in a chat forum.
If it has really offended you, I apologize and am willing to take the necessary steps to change the name.
I am not in here to cause disturbances or static.
I joined to meet and help other Camaro/F-Body fans and get great information from them, nothing lessļ


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Aren't search engines great. You see if you used it in the first place you wouldn't have looked like a ass clown right off the bat. Spouting off on history you knew little or nothing about.
And yes I take great offense to people that try to propagate Nazizism whether it be overtly, covertly or inadvertly. For your case it was inadvertly. I have my reasons why I am real passionate about this subject. About 7 million of them.

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Does it matter?

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Has anything a woman ever said really mattered?

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