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Firechicken
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Post subject: 12 bolt or 9 inch? Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2002 8:26 am |
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Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2002 7:17 pm Posts: 1201 Location: Winder, GA
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As we all know the 10 bolt in the f-body isn't exactly the strongest rearend in the world. As soon as you put some hp above 375 your going to be replacing it and or parts of it very soon. I've been looking at the 12 bolt and 9in. Alot of folks don't like the idea of having a "Ford" product in their F-body, I'm looking for the one that will last and stand up to the abuse day after day. There both right around $2000 and will both bolt right in to include ABS and TCS. Alot of folks on the LS1Tech board have the 12bolt and have been having major problems with them. They have also said that they "whine" pretty bad, haven't heard hardly anything about the 9in. What do you all think?
Hawk I know you've got the 9in in yours and are very happy with it, I'm also looking at price too.
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fbody97
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2002 3:32 pm |
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Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 7:29 pm Posts: 1175 Location: fairfield, CA
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I'm deffinitely going to get a 9 inch. More so now since you say people have been having troubles with the 12 bolt. The price is very close so why not get the better rear?
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JackZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 11:10 am |
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Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 6:03 pm Posts: 8686 Location: Houston, TX
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Yeah, the price isn't that different. The Ford is definitely the better of the two, especially when it comes to 500+ HP applications.  Good luck..
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Hawk
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2002 9:16 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2001 4:25 pm Posts: 4288 Location: Vilseck
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mine is good for 800 Hapees worryless launches@ 4800. Check out http://www.currieenterprises.com I went with the 9 in plus 1900 before upgrades 2500 complete and shipped it BAX. for 375.
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SS396
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 7:20 am |
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What's good with the 9 inch is you can change gears easier.
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Firechicken
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 9:05 am |
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Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2002 7:17 pm Posts: 1201 Location: Winder, GA
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I like fact that I can change the gears in little time and realiablity of the 9in. My only concern is gear "whine". How strong is Currie's 9in in comparision to Moser or Strange? Will the driveshaft have to be changed??
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My96z
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 10:38 am |
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Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2001 5:14 pm Posts: 646 Location: Landstuhl, Germany
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There are actually people who have problems with the 9". There are a few who say that at high speeds there is a vibration due to the fact a 9" has a different angle, I'm not talking pinion angle either. Has to do with the way the pinion is angled on the ring gear.
Personally for me it will be whatever is cheaper  I know a 12 bolt wil hold all the power any of us would throw at it.
Jeff
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Hawk
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 4:23 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2001 4:25 pm Posts: 4288 Location: Vilseck
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Mine Vibrates a little at 170+ MPH I thought it was because i put gears in it?
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Roy
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 6:39 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 27, 2001 2:52 pm Posts: 5556 Location: Mehlingen,Rhineland Pfalz, Deutschland
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The Ford nine inch is the strongest production passenger /light truck axle ever built. I was rebuilding these bastards when I was 15 I hve very few problems with except for grinding up spider gears every now and then. The 9" inch is also known as the poor mans qick change. But of course through constant abuse and probably the use of inferior products in building the 9inch for the aftermarket, there will be breakage. Build it with quality parts and it will hold together , this is also true for the 12bolt.
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Hawk
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 8:11 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2001 4:25 pm Posts: 4288 Location: Vilseck
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Here is the POOP for a custom 9" plus Currie
Sales Craig Reed (714)528-6957 Invoice # 45213
Order# 134564
Third member
9" FORD
Ratio 3.89
Spline 31
DIFF True Trac
YOKE 1330-L
CASE 9+ Nodular Street
CE/Part Description Price
CE-7008 1982-2002 Camaro W/torque arm 549.95
BRKT MNTD on HSG
CE-P3044T 3.89 31 SP TRUE TRAC W STK/
CASE & Currie SUPPORT 1008.95
CE-0118 Assemble rear and AXELS 29.95
CE-0012 Currie Performance AXEL Package 389.95
CE-4090 Upgrade From stock to 9- Plus
Street Case 120.00
UP-Z Palletizing and Boxing 27.50
UP-BU Burlington Air Express 475.00
Optional
You do not need the parking cable Wstk Brakes 99.95
I had ford explorer CD brakes installed 419.95
Flex line 36.95
This should take alot of the work out of a custom rear end for you I have the Specs on the AXELS and housing if you need them.
I went with the 9" because it does not have c clips and this setup is good for 800Hapees and worry free 4800+ launches. 12 bolts are good for 550 and the upgrades were more expensive and harder to work on. These guys would not reccomend the 12 bolt with my setup because I was too close to that number with a M6.
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Firechicken
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:55 pm |
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Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2002 7:17 pm Posts: 1201 Location: Winder, GA
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Roy,
Glad to see your back!!
Hawk,
You've sold me!! If the only time you get vibration is at 170mph then it looks like Currie will be the one! With the 3.89s what are you taching at 80mph? Did you have to make any adjustments (to make it fit)when you put it in, ie to the sway bar, torque arm or lower control arms??
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Hawk
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 4:25 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2001 4:25 pm Posts: 4288 Location: Vilseck
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No mods it bolted right in 2600@ 100MPH
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Firechicken
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 8:01 am |
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Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2002 7:17 pm Posts: 1201 Location: Winder, GA
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Hawk,
That's what I'm talking about 2600@ 100mph.
Thanks Val
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My96z
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2002 3:06 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jul 22, 2001 5:14 pm Posts: 646 Location: Landstuhl, Germany
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Roy, I heard that the Dana 60 out of old Mopars was the strongest ever that came from the factory. I think it had like a 9.75" ring gear? You know anything about them?
Nice to see you are back Roy, long time no see/hear. Hope everything is going O.K
Jeff
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Hawk
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:39 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2001 4:25 pm Posts: 4288 Location: Vilseck
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Jeff a Dana 60/70 is a upgraded 12 bolt from what I have heard. Dana 44 is based on a 10 bolt and Dana 60 is based on the 12 bolt. That is what I heard and I could be wrong however the 9" rocks and that is a fact. This is a large $$$$1X investment so get what you need and do your homework.
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Hawk
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 8:43 pm |
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Firechicken
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2002 5:12 am |
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Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2002 7:17 pm Posts: 1201 Location: Winder, GA
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I'll have to take a look, thanks!!
Val
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JackZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2002 11:11 am |
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Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 6:03 pm Posts: 8686 Location: Houston, TX
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fbody97
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2002 8:19 pm |
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Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 7:29 pm Posts: 1175 Location: fairfield, CA
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Quote: Cheap 9" http://www.quickperformance.com This woulda saved me a $1000 or so.
How did you come up with this? The numbers they quote me are way more expensive than yours.
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JackZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2002 11:38 am |
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