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Anybody see the viper doorsills catch on fire on Top Gear Nov. 7th?

That was classic...then they turned around and spelled viper on the pavement with burnouts.

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Not yet, but looking forward to seeing it ... ;) Not seen it on p2p yet ...

Edit: just found it ... so hopefully will have it some time soon ;)

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hit me up on AIM sometime...that'll take awhile.

You really need to learn torrent. There's an entire website devoted to Top Gear and Fifth Gear Torrents.

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Is it good quality? To date, I have found three types of TV ripps - DivX/Xvid with ~350megs (very good quality, widescreen), 300mb DivX, regular 4:3, good quality, and ~200mb wmv files (low quality video, bad quality sound) with credits in front for some website ...
If it's the latter, it's not really worth downloading ...

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All I can say is thank God I don't have to deal with that!

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2slow:
You're probably right, but the problem is, that there are nearly no parts with ABE for American cars. That's of course an advantage of having a German or European car, that you can mod many things legally without having to worry about TUeV/papers etc.

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That's more or less what I was probably trying to say. I just couldn't find the words. Thank you, sniff, very much!


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2slow wrote:
Most of the tuning parts for German cars have already been tested and awarded an ABE approval. Turn up at the TÜV with your ABE and everything's ok (since there is an ABE, the TÜV guy shifts all responsibility on the issuer of the ABE). Turn up with your US car and a Borla without papers, then you are going to have some grief. You now want the TÜV tester to make a decision (on a product that he does not know) and accept responsibility for his decision.


Exactly! It hurts so much seing all those Calibras, BMWs etc. with blackouts, gfx, loud exhausts etc etc and everything is TÜV approved :evil:

All the parts for german cars have some papers that helps you go through TÜV. The manufacturers do that so they can easily sell their parts in Europe. The parts for the us-cars dont have chit, coz you dont need chit in the States and they dont really care bout the very few drivers in Europe that want to tune their cars, so they dont do any papers that would help us!

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Garry wrote:
Is it good quality? To date, I have found three types of TV ripps - DivX/Xvid with ~350megs (very good quality, widescreen), 300mb DivX, regular 4:3, good quality, and ~200mb wmv files (low quality video, bad quality sound) with credits in front for some website ...
If it's the latter, it's not really worth downloading ...


It's good quality. You just want me to burn it and mail it?

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Just drop me the URL if it's available on the net ... got enough bandwidth to download ;)

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the reason why European cars have few problems is simply because they are better by design and better in execution. American cars are cheaper, but cheap has its price.


I'm not sure I can agree with that statement. The Germans do build some very good cars, but so do the Americans. I'll put the Corvette, Cadillac CTS, Viper, Camaro, and a few others up against anything built anywhere for the same price. I've had two German cars, one BMW and one Mercedes, and can't brag about either one of them, either in terms of quality, service, or value. They have been good cars, but not any better than the American cars I've owned. The cost of driving them was higher due to the upkeep required. Not knocking the German cars, just not convinced that they are significantly better, if at all. There isn't a single one I'd trade my Camaro for, even at twice the price.

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Jerry, don't get me wrong here, but I do not think you can compare the build quality and precision of a Camaro and a Beemer or Merc ... e.g. for something obvious, compare the "Spaltmaße" (I have no idea what that is in english, the gaps between body panels, door/body, etc.) of your 35th to just about any german car ... or the interior ... yes, german cars have their problems, too, but there is definitely a difference there ...

... but I still wouldn't trade my 'maro for a regular Beemer, Merc, or any VW, Opel, german Ford, etc. ... ;)

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If there aren't papers to go with the parts, the TUeV personnel should use some common sense. If they're letting the same parts fly for the European cars, which have the proper papers, I don't see why they shouldn't allow the same parts for the American cars. I understand the rules and everything, I just think it's all a little excessive. Just my opinion.


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Anybody see the viper doorsills catch on fire on Top Gear Nov. 7th?

That was classic...then they turned around and spelled viper on the pavement with burnouts.


Got it ... cool car ... ;) But 500HP out of 8.3L engine is a bit low ...

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P.S. - recoding now ... it's up here, about 18megs and 9min of video ...

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Garry wrote:
Jerry, don't get me wrong here, but I do not think you can compare the build quality and precision of a Camaro and a Beemer or Merc ... e.g. for something obvious, compare the "Spaltmaße" (I have no idea what that is in english, the gaps between body panels, door/body, etc.) of your 35th to just about any german car ... or the interior ... yes, german cars have their problems, too, but there is definitely a difference there ...

... but I still wouldn't trade my 'maro for a regular Beemer, Merc, or any VW, Opel, german Ford, etc. ... ;)


You had it right with the "Gaps".

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Garry wrote:
, compare the "Spaltmaße" (I have no idea what that is in english, the gaps between body panels, door/body, etc.
... but I still wouldn't trade my 'maro for a regular Beemer, Merc, or any VW, Opel, german Ford, etc. ... ;)


Don't blame me if it sounds wrong that is what my lexikon said.
Accurate joint processes and small gap dimensions . for example gap between two construction units

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