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jarek5_7
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:31 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jul 26, 2002 12:43 pm Posts: 55 Location: Poland
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3000eur!!!????
lpg injection systems for V8 are like 1.400eur.
they are very good, I couldndt feel the diffrence between gas and lpg on an 2000 bmw 540.
when a good system is used there is really not a big diffrence even at wot.
a diffrence is very noticable when using noninjection systems with lpg hoses way at front of an intake manifold.
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JackZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:35 pm |
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Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 6:03 pm Posts: 8686 Location: Houston, TX
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My advice:
If you want fuel economy, buy a damn hybrid. Why would anyone want a big a$$ fuel tank inside their car?
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Gunnar
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:24 pm |
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Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2001 8:35 am Posts: 220 Location: Germany
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@Jarek: 3000EUR is including installation.
I will tell you an interesting fact
LABOUR is a very expensive thing in Germany.
There are some companies like Geiger or Starmotors, which will charge up to 6000EUR for converting a Vette to LPG.
But, here Jack is completely right: The big gas tank is not desireable in the Fbody.
_________________ Until November 2004 I had a:
Red 99 Camaro Z28 Euro-Model, M6, T-Top, Movit/ Porsche GT3 front brakes, Alutec Kyro 8,5x19" wheels, Geiger (H&R) springs, oil intercooler, Dynomax twin exhaust,
BUT THAN I MADE A MESS OF IT and now its gone!
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jarek5_7
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:28 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jul 26, 2002 12:43 pm Posts: 55 Location: Poland
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you didnt said that with instalation:)
I know that labor is expensive in Gemany.
as well as a extra tank isnt a desired thing in fbody.
but gas prices here are as high as in Germany with our salaries being couple times or ten times lower...
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Gunnar
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:36 pm |
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Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2001 8:35 am Posts: 220 Location: Germany
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Jarek, I did not mean to hurt you.
People from Poland are fully aware of the prices in Germany (but we do not know much about prices in Poland).
Its good, that some people dare messing around with LPG.
I wish I could do on my own and would not need to rely on some installation companies.
But the financial benefit would be really small for me.
Its not worth it.
_________________ Until November 2004 I had a:
Red 99 Camaro Z28 Euro-Model, M6, T-Top, Movit/ Porsche GT3 front brakes, Alutec Kyro 8,5x19" wheels, Geiger (H&R) springs, oil intercooler, Dynomax twin exhaust,
BUT THAN I MADE A MESS OF IT and now its gone!
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jarek5_7
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:45 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jul 26, 2002 12:43 pm Posts: 55 Location: Poland
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You didnt hurt me:))
mhm 6000 eur for lpg conversion...
if there is a market for it maybe I`ll open a company there hehe:)
oh, and 1.400 eur was price for conversion kit with instalation also
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BenZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:56 am |
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Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2001 3:53 pm Posts: 2485 Location: Mainz, Germany
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Gunnar wrote: There are some companies like Geiger or Starmotors, which will charge up to 6000EUR for converting a Vette to LPG.
Starsmotors is full of sh*t anyway. When I was there once, I saw they were selling a new Chevy Trailblazer with several "extras". One of those extras was a DTM exhaust tip (that coffee can style). That TIP (I'm not talking about a whole exhaust) cost 850 Euro!
Ben
_________________ 1999 Camaro Z28, black, T-Tops, M6
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Gunnar
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:25 pm |
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Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2001 8:35 am Posts: 220 Location: Germany
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Well, I had a look at the homepages of Starmotors, Red and Geiger.
I cannot confirm 6000EUR for an LPG installation, the highest was around 4700EUR for a SUV. But somewhere I had read this.
Anyway, if you want to have a good laugh, just study the prices for their tuning kits!
http://www.Red-Motorsports.de (all prices incl. installation):
A set of PU bushings for the Vette: 1950EUR
4 Bilstein dampers: 1490 EUR
Swaybar set: 1290EUR
Induction kit: Throttle body, MAF and air filter: 1490EUR
Geiger ( http://www.geigercars.de) is not much better:
Stainless steel Catback system, throttle body and airfilter for 3040EUR
I will never ever buy something from them! They are MAD!
_________________ Until November 2004 I had a:
Red 99 Camaro Z28 Euro-Model, M6, T-Top, Movit/ Porsche GT3 front brakes, Alutec Kyro 8,5x19" wheels, Geiger (H&R) springs, oil intercooler, Dynomax twin exhaust,
BUT THAN I MADE A MESS OF IT and now its gone!
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JackZ28
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:57 am |
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Joined: Mon May 28, 2001 6:03 pm Posts: 8686 Location: Houston, TX
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Those prices are ridiculous, and anybody who actually buys from them is either really stupid, or way too uninformed. 
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